Slash78 95 Posted July 16, 2019 I remember before the Wipe the devs were talking about markets and about players being able to set up shops. Whatever happened to this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nari 197 Posted July 16, 2019 They were implemented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slash78 95 Posted July 16, 2019 Are they useful? Do people use them? Asking because since I've been back I've spent most of my time gathering by hand in a lawless area. Haven't got to explore very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nari 197 Posted July 16, 2019 Location. Location. Location. Story time. So I was minding my own business sailing the around this wide open donut we call the Atlas with the wind blowing -75 to Port when I spotted a White Whale off the Starboard side. Pretty close but nothing to be concerned about, or so I thought. So I held my course fully expecting to just sail on by. Turns out my client (or the whale) was out of sync pretty bad because the next thing I know the Bow starts taking some serious damage. *cue battle music* Planks explode. Ships goin down. No mats or spares on board just gold. Real clusterfuck of a situation. So I bank hard to Port into the wind, adjust the sails, and pray to Poseidon that we can make it to shore in time. Upon arriving, to my surprise, I find a dock with a shop perfectly positioned and stocked with everything needed to patch up before it was too late. I'm talking Pirates of the Caribbean style where Jack pulls in just as the ship sinks.gif Are they useful? Absolutely! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slash78 95 Posted July 17, 2019 I haven't came across one yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puppies4ever 856 Posted July 17, 2019 A lot of shops around. D10, E11, M4 etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpspok 16 Posted July 17, 2019 no one plays the game no more so there useless ..... 4,000 players and most are on private dedicated or EU or NA so to many options to be a busy server for player markets to work for shit.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slash78 95 Posted July 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, cpspok said: no one plays the game no more so there useless ..... 4,000 players and most are on private dedicated or EU or NA so to many options to be a busy server for player markets to work for shit.. Actually the majority of people are still playing official servers. The biggest problem is the vast majority who've left and the devs can't seem to figure out 1) why they left and because of that 2) how to bring them back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boomervoncannon 1,541 Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Slash78 said: Actually the majority of people are still playing official servers. The biggest problem is the vast majority who've left and the devs can't seem to figure out 1) why they left and because of that 2) how to bring them back. The maintenance costs for the shops being wildly over the top might have been one reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forb Hidden 134 Posted July 17, 2019 5 hours ago, boomervoncannon said: The maintenance costs for the shops being wildly over the top might have been one reason. And i never read about any changement about the upkeep cost of the shops. as long as they don't change the shops in access-tables to an Atlas wide auction house, they are really useless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grongash 201 Posted July 17, 2019 Not going to sail around endlessly to find shops that may or may not have interesting goods or being restocked. It maybe would have worked with the playerbase they aimed for, but i really doubt they will ever get there. Apart from the ridiculous costs to have them in Freeports, the decay ruins the idea as well. It is like going shopping knowing your car will be keyed while you browse. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UnknownSystemError 111 Posted July 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Slash78 said: Actually the majority of people are still playing official servers. The biggest problem is the vast majority who've left and the devs can't seem to figure out 1) why they left and because of that 2) how to bring them back. Actually if you look at Steam numbers being around 4k and you use this up to the minute official population tracker you will see the current numbers hover between 1k and 1500 depending on the time of day and region. Data don't lie. https://atlas.hgn.hu/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hexaron 28 Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) In my mind player shop upkeep cost is really stupid idea those must be free, so i can put it up near my base or on the ship and hope that someone will buy something. 390 players in EU PVE ^^ Edited July 17, 2019 by Hexaron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grongash 201 Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Hexaron said: In my mind player shop upkeep cost is really stupid idea those must be free, so i can put it up near my base or on the ship and hope that someone will buy something. The upkeep only applies to Freeports last time i checked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boomervoncannon 1,541 Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Grongash said: The upkeep only applies to Freeports last time i checked. While true, the most obvious place for displaying ones wares is in the highest traffic areas. The old saw in retail is that the 3 most important things are location, location, and location (this was in a pre internet world). The insane (and that's honestly what they are) upkeep costs for shops placed in freeports makes them effectively non viable. what would make sense to me is having to pay a percentage of sales for shops placed in freeports, but not the current rent prices, they're just plain nuts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grongash 201 Posted July 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, boomervoncannon said: While true, the most obvious place for displaying ones wares is in the highest traffic areas. The old saw in retail is that the 3 most important things are location, location, and location (this was in a pre internet world). The insane (and that's honestly what they are) upkeep costs for shops placed in freeports makes them effectively non viable. what would make sense to me is having to pay a percentage of sales for shops placed in freeports, but not the current rent prices, they're just plain nuts. I agree, that plus ship decay makes them worthless in the only place they make sense in. It would really help if the developers would actually play their game. Apart from messing around with new stuff via console commands. It is pretty obvious that they are not knowing about how impractical most of their decisions are. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boomervoncannon 1,541 Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Grongash said: I agree, that plus ship decay makes them worthless in the only place they make sense in. It would really help if the developers would actually play their game. Apart from messing around with new stuff via console commands. It is pretty obvious that they are not knowing about how impractical most of their decisions are. I wholeheartedly agree that the strong impression I'm consistently getting is that they lack the practical knowledge of play experience within the game to a meaningful degree. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TyGeR_STD 37 Posted July 17, 2019 I would have rather seen an auction house type system. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Shandy 242 Posted July 17, 2019 They should sort out a system to get feedback from people who do play the game. Oh! Wait. Never mind, that doesn't work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warspectre 141 Posted July 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Nari said: They were implemented. Do you have to have a certain skill for it to show up in your crafting menu? I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slash78 95 Posted July 17, 2019 3 hours ago, UnknownSystemError said: Actually if you look at Steam numbers being around 4k and you use this up to the minute official population tracker you will see the current numbers hover between 1k and 1500 depending on the time of day and region. Data don't lie. https://atlas.hgn.hu/ 1422 of 2230 is 63.8%. So yeah, that's a majority that are on the official servers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grongash 201 Posted July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Warspectre said: Do you have to have a certain skill for it to show up in your crafting menu? I haven't been able to find it anywhere. You need the Master Builder, the one that also lets you build stone walls etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warspectre 141 Posted July 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Grongash said: You need the Master Builder, the one that also lets you build stone walls etc. Ah OK, that would explain it. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites