archaegeo 192 Posted January 21, 2019 This seems like a no brainer for a MMO built around sailing ships. We need the ability to just unclaim a ship and it become owned by whoever claims it next, including all parts on board. Shipyards building to order should be a thing. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jean Lafitte 451 Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, archaegeo said: This seems like a no brainer for a MMO built around sailing ships. We need the ability to just unclaim a ship and it become owned by whoever claims it next, including all parts on board. Shipyards building to order should be a thing. You'd think that ANY mmo released today would have some sort of system to allow you to safely trade with other players to prevent scamming before it even goes live right? Welcome to Atlas. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archaegeo 192 Posted January 21, 2019 Naa, they have NPC shops coming to freeports, thats goign to be bad enough But I get letting scam trades happen, cause then you can kill the person who scammed you But all the freeport shops will do is let people store things safely, heh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seren Du 63 Posted January 21, 2019 ive done a Ikea flat pack Brig in a box to trade for Tames Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerrorTrooper 64 Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Seren Du said: ive done a Ikea flat pack Brig in a box to trade for Tames Its a strange one in in all seriousness. As it stands, grapeshot have said they never intended people to really trade tames and went out of their way to discourage it, yet it’s ironic! The game has zero economy, the players found their own economy which provided them content, promoted trading and teamwork, and added something good to the game by sheer accident, yet grapeshot don’t want that! It really doesn’t make sense. Edited January 21, 2019 by TerrorTrooper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Case of the Scurvy 72 Posted January 21, 2019 Technically you can sell all the needed parts to make a ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caldrin 55 Posted January 21, 2019 As above.. or build the ship take it there and let them claim it.. It's a sandbox so in part it's up to the player to use what systems we currently have in place 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seren Du 63 Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, TerrorTrooper said: Its a strange one in in all seriousness. As it stands, grapeshot have said they never intended people to really trade tames and went out of their way to discourage it, yet it’s ironic! The game has zero economy, the players found their own economy which provided them content, promoted trading and teamwork, and added something good to the game by sheer accident, yet grapeshot don’t want that! It really doesn’t make sense. Oi you aint got time to be on the forums you should be replenishing stock!! lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TerrorTrooper 64 Posted January 21, 2019 33 minutes ago, Seren Du said: Oi you aint got time to be on the forums you should be replenishing stock!! lol Yes boss!! Sorry boss!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slash78 95 Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, TerrorTrooper said: Its a strange one in in all seriousness. As it stands, grapeshot have said they never intended people to really trade tames and went out of their way to discourage it, yet it’s ironic! The game has zero economy, the players found their own economy which provided them content, promoted trading and teamwork, and added something good to the game by sheer accident, yet grapeshot don’t want that! It really doesn’t make sense. They don't want it because they want people to run around and grief each other "for resources". Just like the old Ark BS about "raiding for resources" when raiding was more about wiping the other side just because. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hodo 147 Posted January 21, 2019 As we used to say in the early days of WWII Online.... "Soon" tm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tezcatlipoca 76 Posted January 21, 2019 Not only unclaim... Rename! One typo will blame you for rest of your life... 1 hour ago, Case of the Scurvy said: Technically you can sell all the needed parts to make a ship. This is not the same. Would you buy a car in parts??? Or would you buy a shiny colored and well designed car / boat? I think the developers are too narrow-minded. Instead of any features that nobody wants (aging), they should rather develop features that are also in demand by the players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Case of the Scurvy 72 Posted January 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, Tezcatlipoca said: Not only unclaim... Rename! One typo will blame you for rest of your life... This is not the same. Would you buy a car in parts??? Or would you buy a shiny colored and well designed car / boat? I think the developers are too narrow-minded. Instead of any features that nobody wants (aging), they should rather develop features that are also in demand by the players. I know what you mean, but you can Essentially become the ikea of the server. Sucks but its what we have **right now** but im totally with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grongash 201 Posted January 21, 2019 3 hours ago, archaegeo said: This seems like a no brainer for a MMO built around sailing ships. Would also have been a no brainer to make sure you cant overweight exploit sink them Guess i wouldnt hold my breath.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warspectre 141 Posted January 21, 2019 It does seem weird that there was no in-game trading system between players already in place in an MMO, but they did say they're working on it so I guess we'll see. 1 hour ago, Tezcatlipoca said: Not only unclaim... Rename! One typo will blame you for rest of your life... This is not the same. Would you buy a car in parts??? Or would you buy a shiny colored and well designed car / boat? I think the developers are too narrow-minded. Instead of any features that nobody wants (aging), they should rather develop features that are also in demand by the players. There's plenty of real-world examples of "some assembly required' purchases. I typically buy my own computer in parts and put it together myself for example. Having said that though there probably weren't a lot of ships sold as a kit rather than a completed product, so I'll give you that. As to the last, I would hope there would be different teams working on aging than trade, but both touch on a lot of different systems so there's probably some unavoidable crossover. It doesn't necessarily mean trading got back shelved or delayed because of aging or anything else. There hasn't been a lot of transparency so we can only guess why some things are in the game and some aren't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tezcatlipoca 76 Posted January 21, 2019 Sure, there are... I dont want to question ist. What I wanted to say is that you do not just sell a ship or parts. You can sell a cool look, a functional design or something else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
archaegeo 192 Posted January 21, 2019 We should be able to buy the ship in any stage, whether its panels on and nothing else or fully decorated and furnished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSzerdi 79 Posted January 22, 2019 Even trading a 'ship in a box' the buyer has to be able to lay down a keel. I can't. Only one guy in my group can. Solo players should be screaming for better trade mechanics. Imagine running sap in a sloop to pay for the brigantine they're building you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realist 504 Posted January 22, 2019 10 hours ago, archaegeo said: This seems like a no brainer for a MMO built around sailing ships. We need the ability to just unclaim a ship and it become owned by whoever claims it next, including all parts on board. Shipyards building to order should be a thing. It should be a thing, it it does become a thing, it won’t be for a long time. You might think it is easy to do and it probably is, but, for these guys it won’t be. They are having enough problems right now doing very basic fixes. just fair warning, if they do implement it, there will be a way to grief it. You need to know that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites