Offline protection

[Breannor 4]

+1

Game need offline protection like Windows vulnerability hour.

Each clan set for example 8 h when they Can be attacked and Can loose flag, ship or buildings Linked to bases

Btw offline raid is really not PvP 

[gellyrogers 0]

I agree me we tried mortars only to find that ai cant man them i think that would help due to there range if ai could man ships I think it would make offline raiding a lot harder cause they would get attacked from a ways out and mortars are harder to snipe people off of cause your pretty well tucked behind the mortar itself cannons only reach so far and make it hard for a defense in my opinion. Honestly devs should just make it so ai can mount mortars they do alot of damage and have great range. 

[DocHolliday 366]

How about if the owner of a ship is online any ship he owns is vulnerable?  Ship stays vulnerable for 1 hour after logout.  Just tossing a number out as you need to prevent people from abusing that. 

Omg 4 ships inbound.....logoff!

People play at different times and sometimes might miss a few days straight.  Would be nice knowing you have a lot better chance to find your ship floating instead of at the bottom of the sea. 

Say you night time raid someone and most players are offline....only the people who are playing or have been recently will have vulnerable ships.  Odds are they are nearby so they have a chance to defend.  The rest are invulnerable so there is still risk, but not as risky as it is now.  If you try targeting a protected ship it will be like a Freeport zone. 

As it stands now I have lost 7 ships while sleeping or going out to dinner.  Its making doing anything but playing that game risky and stressful at times.  Not very healthy for your player base. 

Edited January 7, 2019 by DocHolliday

[Hodo 147]

Sorry but NO, NO, NO!!!!

If you dont want your stuff to be vulnerable then dont park it where it is an easy mark.   Learn to be part of something bigger, I am part of a larger company now, so we can protect our stuff much better.  We have even started building harbor defenses to protect our ships when our population is low.   With NPC gunners.   I know crazy right.

[Luxfere 90]

On 1/4/2019 at 10:32 AM, Paradigm said:

I see absolutely no reason to not have something as simple as making your boats and structures immune to damage if the entire company has been offline for an hour or so. The only reason to not support some sort of offline protection is because you're the type who offline raids...

Then dont play pvp or pve for that matter, yo have the tools to do what it takes but your to lazy like most arkh players

[wildbill 142]

3 hours ago, Luxfere said:

Then dont play pvp or pve for that matter, yo have the tools to do what it takes but your to lazy like most arkh players

Hmm, this guy has spell checkers at his disposal, but doesn't use them and then calls us lazy?

This is a game, not work, so if someone wants to be lazy, they have every right not to spend days making there stuff "safe".

Many of the game methods intended to make your base safe, like putting a wall around your dock, aren't going to stop a determined player. They can just climb over that wall, fly over it, etc. Only something like offline raid protection would really stop them (not that I actually would play PVP if they had it).

[Paradigm 26]

3 hours ago, Luxfere said:

Then dont play pvp or pve for that matter, yo have the tools to do what it takes but your to lazy like most arkh players

Misspelling words, lazy analysis and attacking people on forums? 

Being insulted by that amalgamation of failure is more of a compliment than anything. Go back to Fortnite.

Edited January 7, 2019 by Paradigm

[MightySheep 14]

I've never lost a boat while offline, I wonder why that is 

[Dingiva 16]

20 hours ago, Willard said:

Eerm, what? You realize the smaller tribe is the bigger problem it has right? Because they simply can't make ships every day. 

Yet you are basically complaining about this smaller tribe. And thats the point: You are p*ssed that they keep attacking you, while you are offline. Dude, on the servers, there are players from different timezones. Why the hell should anyone specify when they´re allowed to attack, just because you cant play at the specific moment? Theres even people working on nightshifts in your timezone.

[Breannor 4]

Off raiding is not PvP

Thats why we need War rules....

 

[Rizzit 16]

14 hours ago, Hodo said:

Sorry but NO, NO, NO!!!!

If you dont want your stuff to be vulnerable then dont park it where it is an easy mark.   Learn to be part of something bigger, I am part of a larger company now, so we can protect our stuff much better.  We have even started building harbor defenses to protect our ships when our population is low.   With NPC gunners.   I know crazy right.

That's absolute bullcrap we sunk 4 galleons of LV90Zhou the same day even with 24h coverage at 4 AM in china 90% of their alliance was off which means we could take them out easely. 

If you want your ships to be safe, then don't build them. Travel with sloops and destroy other people's ships while they are offline so that enough people rage and refund until we get a parking zone  

[Willard 245]

2 hours ago, Dingiva said:

Yet you are basically complaining about this smaller tribe. And thats the point: You are p*ssed that they keep attacking you, while you are offline. Dude, on the servers, there are players from different timezones. Why the hell should anyone specify when they´re allowed to attack, just because you cant play at the specific moment? Theres even people working on nightshifts in your timezone.

Im not complaining about smaller tribe. I was complaining about offline raiding as a whole which is extremely cancerous. That small tribe was just an example. 

[Godslyr 1]

On 1/4/2019 at 1:09 AM, Znick said:

Use walls and NPC's. If you're the low hanging fruit then yeah, you'll be taken out... spend the time doing the work to build your defense and you'll make it more effort than they're worth and move on to someone easier.

Z

You have NO idea what your talking about. We built a rampart on too of out gated harbor, even enclosed it as much as possible. Al the have to do is grapple hook up, the carbine or flame arrow from a distance. Thats it, plain and simple. And destroying a ship is way to easy, 1 man, 2 jars of oil, 1 flame arrow sinks a sloop in 30 sec. all this and then the chinese hacks is makeing the game just not worth of our time. I come from a 50+ company that played religiously.  After last night when we had taken a  chinese base only to have it suddenly reclaimed by snipers that never missed & naked players that took ZERO damage from fire or punching, yes have video proof of that. One of our punching specialist shows him whaling in an enemy that just stands there, taking no damage and 2 torpor per hit. The guy didnt even attempt to defend himself. Today, no one has logged in yet, I dont blame them, Ive lost my taste for this game already, fix the hacking/exploiting or youll lose all your non chinese playerbase.

[Znick 41]

Playing vs cheaters is another story... but it's not too hard to defend against people playing legit. Yeah you're going to lose stuff, but you can fight fire with fire and do the same things in retal.

The cheaters in this game are going to put it under. We killed an enemy brig last week... they DDOS'd the server and crashed it, so the 5 minute rollback saved it.

Z

[Deadbones 10]

No thanks. If  i would like to play a bulletsink/bulletfarm simulator, i would have stay on ark. And offline protection? Really? In a hardcore survival game? What would i do on a 4/150 pop quadrant? Should i play whack-a-mole finding the only vulnerable base out there? :D:D:D
Whow this suggestion is dumb, you don't get the game at all.
Go pve, or play Sea of Thieves. This is a survival mmo, where you ask for a non-survival, non-mmo approach....
You want to be viable as a solo person? Inviduality, life, EQUIPMENT/GEAR. Choose two. See more on explanation.

Your only problem literally that you want everything for yourself by yourself alone. If they balance the game like that, each and every person will be riding galleons, and endgame stuff, there would be no variety, and no "whoooa thats a galleon" vibe to galleons. There would be no sloop captains, everyone would keep elephants to harvest wood like a god, and go galleons. You are NOT supposed to be capable of that. Big corps supposed to. You neither should aim for owning claim areas. Contact a big corp, ask for settleing right for tax, they'll secure the area for you. They have the 0-24 coverage. You don't need to be a no-lifer, but for the love of god.... give up being the badass with the castle with 2 days a week playtime on PVP, there is PVE servers for that, don't ruin pvp by cutting out inconvential pvp. Just choose someone who is capable of making castles and support them, even if you don't exactly join them xD

About protection, gunport+swivel+npc. Build an "umbrella" for them, so they only shoot downward. from outside of the umbrella, they don't have the vision on the npc. Once they come under it, the swivel can shoot too. Or put down a gunport backward to a spot where two floors touch, with its back there. Put a swivel on it, assign crew to it, then build the wall between the swivel and the npc. The npc body will be behind the wall, so it cant be sniped, but since the swivel is outside it can shoot.

///*******EXPLANATION ZONE
You want to be solo right(1. pick inviduality)? Fine. Don't go for galleons, claims, rare equipments. You can totally do nearly anything with Sloops and Schooners and primitive gears (except the kraken and ghostships, but thats group content to begin with). You don't want to wander around with a galleon with low crew, or solo EVER. Have a replacable sloop for close range exploration/gathering, and a schooner for long voyages/bigger projects (powerstone/pvp). Always undock a ship wih a one day single purpose, where it redeems its cost in one day, and enjoy if it stays after it. You can have a blast as a commoner, if you build in lawless, without any kind of defence, even if they break in, you can stuff the bigger holes with the same investment that your raider did. Don't stash, always build an extra wall if you have materials for it instead of bulking up. In lawless, everything you build will stay yours, they can't steal buildings. If you choose freetime (2.pick life) then you won't be able to have endgame content, since you'll lose that. Or you can choose to farm your ass off (2.pick endgame gear), then you have to be 0-24.

(Life, endgame) If you don't choose inviduality, meaning for example that you give up having a claim (by the way, its really overrated to personally own a territory), and you agree with a corp to settle rights for taxation, you basicly pay for your protection, they'll patrol for bigger invasion fleets, and hunt pkers in your place 0-24.

[Dosomething 6]

In fact according to the theme of the above post, it is a privilege that you paid for this game and you should be grateful for what role you can play as an individual, WTF.  I agree with the point of single player restriction in what a single player can achieve in terms of ships but this is about a flawed meta that rewards people for running around claiming anything or a guy in his undies called Rambo killing everything when the owner is not online with ease so the risk/ reward is become a griefer as that is what pays best

 

The time one for change is now, change the game to ensure it’s future devs before its yesterday’s news and just a horde of griefers as that is the meta at present , thAt is the game mode that rewards at present. Again I think the game has bugs etc but it has many great aspects that with careful thoughts and actions can make it a great game.

 

 

Edited February 4, 2019 by Dosomething

[labatts 44]

3 hours ago, Dosomething said:

In fact according to the theme of the above post, it is a privilege that you paid for this game and you should be grateful for what role you can play as an individual, WTF.  I agree with the point of single player restriction in what a single player can achieve in terms of ships but this is about a flawed meta that rewards people for running around claiming anything or a guy in his undies called Rambo killing everything when the owner is not online with ease so the risk/ reward is become a griefer as that is what pays best

 

The time one for change is now, change the game to ensure it’s future devs before its yesterday’s news and just a horde of griefers as that is the meta at present , thAt is the game mode that rewards at present. Again I think the game has bugs etc but it has many great aspects that with careful thoughts and actions can make it a great game.

 

 

NO. I love how the people that dont want PVP to change are automatically called griefers or trolls. Offline immunity is game breaking and ruins the entire point of this hardcore survival game. There are other options they could take on this issue that would make both sides happy we will just have to wait and see. But the notion of people raiding offline bases mean there will be no PVP is false. today alone i was chilling in my base and some randoms where trying to offline a base near me. So i geared up ran over and had some PVP defending some random persons base just for fun. After i stopped the attackers I ended up raiding the people trying to raid the base i defended. 

[LaiTash 156]

58 minutes ago, labatts said:

Offline immunity is game breaking

Said no mmo developer ever. Seriously what is so game-breaking in encouraging active PvP instead of discouraging it?

At first i was in one russian alliance. We decided to raid some guys and take their land on a neighbour server. It was almost prime time, we embarked on our ships and sailed to the enemy. Alas, they were too good for us and despite our numbers we could only place one flag that was removed in no time. So what happened? Well i say gf, go to sleep, the next morning i wake up and learn that we took their land after all. Because 4AM raid. Even got a prisoner to force-feed. The whole discord was so full of themselves! We couldn't win a fair fight despite our numbers so we cleverly used the stupidity of a "hardcore survival game" design that has no place in a MMO to our advantage.

That day me and my friend left to join a small group because WTF? What is the point of being in a large group if that's their idea of territory conquest pvp?

Now with a small group we've been fighting a french alliance for a couple of weeks, and while we had some pvp during the daytime, they weren't very active and dindn't really try to do anything until 1-2AM, and most "pvp" until then was "us vs some clueless nakeds minding their own business". Only when i was going to sleep or already sleeping the actual raid would begin. If the raid goes on in the morning, it's us vs nakeds again till the night falls. So i could only have actual fun in PvP if i ignored the whole sleeping business and stood awake till 6-7 AM, and i have a fucking job you know.

And it was an alliance of at least two top 10 tribes who could just steamroll us with numbers alone. I fully realise they'd wipe us anyway, with or without ORP, and that is not the point.

I don't hate it because it's too difficult for oh so carebear me, i hate it because it's retarded.

Edited February 4, 2019 by LaiTash

[labatts 44]

17 minutes ago, LaiTash said:

Said no mmo developer ever. Seriously what is so game-breaking in encouraging active PvP instead of discouraging it?

At first i was in one russian alliance. We decided to raid some guys and take their land on a neighbour server. It was almost prime time, we embarked on our ships and sailed to the enemy. Alas, they were too good for us and despite our numbers we could only place one flag that was removed in no time. So what happened? Well i go to sleep, the next morning i wake up and learn that we took their land after all. Because 4AM raid. Even got a prisoner to force-feed. The whole discord was so full of themselves! We couldn't win a fair fight despite our numbers so we cleverly used the stupidity of a "hardcore survival game" design that has no place in a MMO to our advantage.

That day me and my friend left to join a small group because WTF? What is the point of being in a large group if that's their idea of territory conquest pvp?

Now with a small group we've been fighting a french alliance for a couple of weeks, and while we had some pvp during the daytime, they weren't very active and dindn't really try to do anything until 1-2AM, and most "pvp" until then was "us vs some clueless nakeds minding their own business". Only when i was going to sleep or already sleeping the actual raid would begin. If the raid goes on in the morning, it's us vs nakeds again till the night falls. So i could only have actual fun in PvP if i ignored the whole sleeping business and stood awake till 6-7 AM, and i have a fucking job you know.

And it was an alliance of at least two top 10 tribes who could just steamroll us with numbers alone. 

One must be completely retarded to enjoy that kind of gameplay.

So your mad that people did not PVP at your time. Seems very selfish kinda like how you want raid protection. If they were only nakeds kill them and and raid their base thats what you want right people to be online ? Which also means just because people are online doesnt mean they are going to PVP the way YOU want. You have this hole idea that this game needs to be like EVE just because developers got there insight from that game. 

Edited February 4, 2019 by labatts

[LaiTash 156]

16 minutes ago, labatts said:

so your mad that people did not PVP at your time

Ah sorry i've forgot that France is in Australia and we have totally different time zones. Or maybe their whole alliance has crazy work schedules who knows right? 

No man. They planned their raids at nights because as a defending side we couldn't know when exactly they're planning to attack and we can't stay awake every single night. Not because they live in a different timezone or whatever BS excuse you can come up with.

16 minutes ago, labatts said:

If they were only nakeds kill them and and raid their base thats what you want right people to be online ?

Well we were killing them successfully. Couldn't really raid their bases (tho we've managed to sink a lot of their ships) because it's a freaking TOP 10 you know - and i'm not complaining about that. Except they weren't naked at night. At night, they would come fully geared with their bears, mortars, sometimes galleons even, and WAY more people.

Edited February 4, 2019 by LaiTash

[labatts 44]

1 minute ago, LaiTash said:

Ah sorry i've forgot that France is in Australia and we have totally different time zones. Or maybe their whole alliance has crazy work schedules who knows right? 

No man. They planned their raids at nights because as a defending side we couldn't know when exactly they're planning to attack and we can't stay awake every single night. Not because they live in a different timezone or whatever BS excuse you can come up with.

So like people in the US that work different shifts, that is not allowed in France or Russia etc ?? Maybe the hardcore PVP players in that company play at different times, there could be many reasons why they choose to do that. As for the naked fighting I have also fought against people that do that because why not there really is no penalty for not wearing gear. On top of that 10 nakeds with pikes versus 3 geared guys can usually zerg down the geared people and take their armor at little to no cost. You also say they planned their raid at night how do you know this do you have spies in their company ?? Maybe they did not have the resources or ppl on at the time to raid you so they waited for more numbers. 

[LaiTash 156]

2 minutes ago, labatts said:

You also say they planned their raid at night how do you know this do you have spies in their company ??

Because they were raiding us at nights? 

3 minutes ago, labatts said:

Maybe the hardcore PVP players in that company play at different times

Yeah. Right. 70 people all working night shifts.

[labatts 44]

1 minute ago, LaiTash said:

Because they were raiding us at nights? 

Yeah. Right. 70 people all working night shifts.

So once again YOU are mad because they did not raid you when you wanted. Man get out of here if you cant handle it or go play PVE. clearly from other post in this topic people do not want offline immunity. And for the ones that do this is not the game for you or you should try PVE. 

[Willard 245]

13 minutes ago, labatts said:

So once again YOU are mad because they did not raid you when you wanted. Man get out of here if you cant handle it or go play PVE. clearly from other post in this topic people do not want offline immunity. And for the ones that do this is not the game for you or you should try PVE. 

They chose to raid at night because they are 24/7 players and they know they wont have any resistance during night. Stop making excuses. People do raid at nights because its easy, not because they play mostly at nights

Its just pathetic how they ignore their enemies during the day and go raid them when they go offline. Its not pvp.

Edited February 4, 2019 by Willard

[LaiTash 156]

10 minutes ago, labatts said:

Man get out of here if you cant handle it or go play PVE.

Really? How about people who prefer fighting against NPC-manned turrets go play PvE?