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What: There are 2 things people use right now: cannons with cannon balls, large cannons with large cannonballs Why: all you need to do is break planks and ships sink, cannons do plenty of damage to sails suggestions: cannon balls should not do splash damage to structures, they are not grenade launchers... that's what a spike shot is bar shots should be the only thing that can do much to sails. Currently a good burst of heavy cannons can completely destroy a sail don't make planks come off completely from cannon balls. instead, weak planks can be pierced, hitting the things inside the boat make cannonballs lose at *least* most of their momentum and damage the moment they touch water dont make loss of planks sink ships, especially top planks that never touch water. This would add to realism too... wooden ships did not sink from cannonballs (hitting water, especially) they sank from getting really messed up, and even then they floated, in wreckage. A ship can start taking on water from having an overall loss of hp, maybe a % of damage to all planks and decks, or possibly just *lower* planks and decks. Losing a ship from 1 missing plank out of 40... or 72 is just less fun
I've seen a few older posts containing parts of what, but they are a bit incomplete (imho). I know people usually get angry over posting relevant things in older threads for some weird reason, so I made a new thread instead. 1. Why does it need a rework? - Ships with ridiculous platforms with most guns on top deck facing fore or aft, all with large cannons. - Almost no-one in pvp is using gunports - Galleons with 6 masts look horrible and are totally unrealistic for the era that inspired the game's setting, even if it's not set on Earth. (17th or 18th century) - We can't create any proper rig due to lack of headsails, staysails and inablily to attach gaff sails to the back of square rigged masts - The large masts look too small on a galleon. - The gunports look a bit too large. For people who think a game full of 6 masted warships is not an issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_large_sailing_vessels As you can see: - Not a single warship ever had more than 5 masts. - Not a single pure sailing warship ever had more than 4 masts. - The largest and latest pure sailing warships, when pure sailing warfare technology was at its pinnacle, right before steam engines were introduced on warhsips, only had 3 masts. - Even the hybrid steamer warships from the 19th century in this list, that had more than 3 masts, had their rigging reduced to 3 masts at some point. I did not find examples of 15th through 18th century merchant vessels with more than 4 masts either. So do you now understand why any Age of Sail enthusiast will cringe at the sight of a 6 masted galleon? In my opinion, the ingame galleon with it's maximum of 52 gunports and about 54 meter long gundeck, looks alot more like a 3-masted 4th rate ship of the line, than the earlier 4-masted galleons. Either way it should absolutely not have more than 4 masts and preferably only 3. 2. Solutions: 2.1 Sails - Add a very large mast, with royal sails and if larger shipclasses are added, add huge masts aswell. This would both allow for having a 3 masted galleon aswell as have the masts look large enough for the galleon and potentially larger vessels. - Adding jibs and staysails It would allow to have a proper Bermuda rig for sloops, a proper Schooner-rig or just about any proper rig that needs headsails. - Separate mast and sail placement. This would for example allow for an actual brig rig with 2 square rigged masts, a gaff sail (spanker) attached to the mainmast and jibs between the bowspirit and foremast. It would also allow for a square rigged sail to be put on top of a gaff rigged masst for a proper brigantine rig. - No weight sails Because it just doens't make any sense, remove a weigth sails and suddenly a ship can carry less and starts sinking? Similar to weight reduction on tames. 2.2 Cannons and combat - Remove the large cannon or restrict placement to lowest deck and increase range of medium cannons to at least match the range of SotD. It would make people actually use gunports and give us less ridiculous looking designs. The largest guns were actually put on the lowest gundeck, closest to the water, where the ship was at it's widest, to prevent capsizing when firing them. Could also not restrict placement and make ships capsize when firing large cannon broadsides from top deck. - Add fore and aft gunports and possibly restrict cannon placement (not sure about the latter) No more 10 cannons platforms at fore and aft. - Make cannonballs protrude the hull and damage, or just make the bow and stern weaker: Turning your bow or stern into an opponents broadside becomes a bad idea and people would want to actually use their broadsides as much as possible and try to do "T-mavoeuvers" for max damage, while at the same time trying to avoid allowing their opponent to execute this manoeuver. - No weight difference for cannons between openend and closed gunports. Opened gunports in high seas would just mean ur ship is sinking very slowly because it takes on water. I mean the ships sink with one plank removed, but keep afloat with all those oversized gunports open? And why does it say submit a bug report, when i'm posting in suggestions?
Introduce AI Colonial Imperialists. Lore: The Imperialists seek to expand their empire and eradicate the lawless influence of pirates by colonizing the known world. Among all foes existent, the Kraken, beasts of legend and the cursed Damned, none are as persistent and methodical in their approach to quelling the pirate scourge. BLUF: Diverse sea combat options. New PvE land combat gameplay. New Mini-bosses. New Boss Event - Fleets In-game mechanics already exist. Imperialists on Land: Optional applications: 1. Consistent: Imperial land activity is continual, the struggle ensues all day every day. 2. Event Based "Colonizing Rush": Imperial land activity occurs on a rotating cycle. 1 week on three weeks off. Imperial land gains are persistent post event. Operate on similar mechanics as aggressive tames. *agro created by player structures; Will seek out and destroy structures on islands, prioritizing structures around high value items, eg. Ships boxes, storage boxes, work benches etc.. *uses systematic vs. random destruction. Imperialist crew WILL NOT insta-destroy player bases. Attacks will do damage proportionate to number, level, and crew type. Imperialists will establish outposts that contest player claims. A sphere of influence (like an expanding claim flag boundary and decay timer), will expand at a pace proportionate to the outpost level. The rate of contestation is proportionate to Outpost level. Sphere of influence will disappear upon outpost destruction* Imperialists outpost placement ignores player claim flags and "foundation spamming". Outpost placement location can be either random or driven by where an Imperialist ship "makes contact" with an island. Outpost will always be established on coasts or the next usable terrain space that isn't cliffs or unpassable. *Outposts will produce more Imperialist Crew at random levels until completely destroyed (like wild animal spawns); Imperialist outposts will gradually increase in level and will change in appearance. Capped limit of Imperialist outposts per island, relative to base level. Size/strength defensibility caps out at “x” level; Destruction of Imperialist bases produces material/loot. Loot can only be received when base is totally destroyed. *prevents farming exploit; Imperialist crew specializations: - Crew: Cloth armor, armed with sabre, bows or pistols. Made up of mostly Imperial citizens who either volunteered or were gang pressed into service. Quick to follow orders but quicker to turn coats when not kept in check by Imperial elites. Crews Imperial ships *can be hired after defeating a ship. - Musketeer: Cloth Armor, armed with blunderbuss. Rank and file soldier for land occupation. - Marine: Hide Armor, armed with carbine. Elite soldier of the Imperials. Posted on ships and to land for protection of Imperial assets. - Crusader: Plate Armor, armed with heavy weapons. An Imperial fanatic driven by a tragic backstory who has dedicated their lives to the utter destruction of pirates; an endeavor they pursue with religious fervor. Imperialist crew will capture player tames set to passive. *Allows for recapturing of tames once outpost is destroyed; Imperialist crew do not attack wild animals unless attacked. Wild aggressive animals will attack Imperialists (tigers etc..); Imperialist crew will roam. Imperialists set to Aggressive – High attack range; Imperials form and act like a “pack (wolf)” When an imperialists finds a structure it will “call” for help from the outpost. Imperialist “Alpha” Character: Governor – Mini boss present at each outpost that levels in conjunction with outpost level and heals with every player kill. *Governor does not leave the outpost. Imperialist crew ignore shipyards. (Prevents destruction of player ships in construction. Structures built on shipyards will be attacked i.e. work bench/storage box); Imperialists at Sea Boss Event - Imperial Fleets: On a recurring cycle Imperial Fleets will take to the seas to purge all pirate activity. Fleets will consist of multiple ships at varying levels and configurations. Fleet levels overall will vary, allowing potential for soloing a "lvl 1" fleet. Defeating Fleets will add to clan rankings and leaderboards and unlock accolades & titles. Imperialists can be engaged at sea, Imperialist crew is claimable only at sea. (Similar to SoD). *different model/skin required to differentiate. Imperialist ships have three interaction options: 1. Destroyed though ship vs ship combat. Enables salvaging of wreckage; 2. Claimed by boarding and defeating a ship’s crew and captain *Ship’s captain is a mini boss (similar to treasure hunting boss). Allows player to keep the ship in the condition it is rendered by combat. Claiming ships produces greater loot rewards than destroying and salvaging or capturing. *Makes use of Pirate skill “what’s yours is mine”. 3. Captured and scuttled (produces "ships flag item", by defeating the crew and Captain. *Claiming or sinking a ship prevents “capturing of the ships flag" (used for daily missions). *Makes use of Pirate skill “what’s yours is mine”. Imperialist ship and crew levels are random and have proportionate stats; Imperialists ignore moored ships unless attacked. Imperialist ships will prioritize disabling vs destruction. Imperialist will capture a player ship when all crew and player is killed. *player can die and respawn on the ship to continue the defense. Imperialist’s ships are drawn to and contest sea area claims. Sea claims could increase the likelihood that an Imperialist finds its way to an island; Imperialist ship path based on wind direction and agro; Imperialist Hunting is added as daily mission or free play task: Mission: Destroy “x” Imperialists; Mission Capture and turn in Imperialist ship Flags at free port. Depending on mission difficulty, can provides unique rewards / rare materials as a reward. Mission reward suggestions: Unlocks new ship hull types for construction; Free Play task. Turn in “x” flags to unlock custom skins for: ships, ship parts and flags; Free Play Task: Destroy “x” Imperialist outposts to unlock building part skins. Pros: Enables diverse ship vs ship combat. *Gives the player a choice. Disabling vs destruction (use of ammo types); Enables PvE land combat gameplay, (other than vs wild animals). Imperialists will “clean up” unused / inactive structures and claims and challenge active claims. Encourages active player engagement in claim management and concentration of effort. Companies who hold large claim areas require proportionate effort to hold them. New players will have a chance to claim territory that has been purged by Imperialists. SoD role remains unchanged (sea based aggressors); Enables PvE use of existing in game defense equipment; Promotes use of Player tames/crew for defense purposes. Players will need to strategize and consider how to actively protect their bases and tames when offline, and, ships while sailing. Cons: Solo new players, while having a greater chance to establish themselves will be susceptible to Imperialist attacks. Requires strategic thinking for base placement. (Life is more than a box). Large structure counts increase likelihood of Imperialist attack; No PvE Offline Raid Protection