Whitehawk

The trouble with the anti spam argument by paying for ships, is the fact that it's the large companies who constantly ship and shipyard spam everywhere. And they don't care as much about paying for ships anyway. Strangely it fit's perfectly into 2020, doing something without any logical reason what so ever and not caring who you aggravate. The devs should go into politics, while there is still a demand for people who think like they do.

The problem is they use early access like it's a "get out of any criticism shield" but it's not. Tbh a year ago i'd have been happier with a steampunk theme than what they have done to it now, if they went the full hog and added airships etc, but they now live in two camps, and they are too late to the party. And at the rate they add content, it won't be a steampunk style game till 2032, and still be in ea! it's like they have a stale cake, but think if they give it a new topping people will buy it and forget it's past it's sell by date.

Frankly, building my own ships was the best thing about Atlas. Now that's gradually disappearing it makes me glad I quit.

Well I played conan from release and still do, although the game crashed and never reloaded in steam for me.I play xbox now, and it is pants in comparism. To add insult to injury, at the time I was the longest lasting player on that server too! Conan pvp is just a damn grief fest, I built a massive double structured castle, and someone destroyed it just for the hell of it one night, because I didn't lick their butts on chat like everyone else did cos they were a massive tribe. And also, like you said you bought all the cosmetics, and so have most of the players on pve. I didn't btw. not any. I think Atlas are gonna lose money down the pvp route. And rust at sea does seem to be what they want for some unfathomable reason. That's if the game ever gets finished at all. Looking at their track record, I seriously doubt if it will ever leave early access. I love dark and light, but 3 years later still ea. Outlaws of the old west still ea.

As I've said before, they want the pvp route cos it's easier, you don't have to keep adding shed loadsa content to keep people interested, like you do with pve. That was obvious when we asked for more interior furnishings for housing and they blatantly admitted they had no plans to do it. I mean who the hell wants the inside of a building to be an empty square block in pve? Where as if you are hardcore pvp that prob won't bother you at all. Welcome to rust at sea.

Hmm, you obviously don't live in low rent social housing eh? The only thing that isn't too heavy for these walls is a poster! and that's pushing it.

You're lucky, my Missus just wants me to put up more shelving all the time.

Yeh, I can only imagine the lag i'd get sailing anywhere near their buildings. It would look like an old cine film from 1900! Nice work though.

Atlas is becoming rust with ships. Must be all the water!

Yeh Boomer, they've been doing such a great job on the game , i've finally quit! been a while since u were last here eh.

If you are in single player mode and you are worried about your stuff getting destroyed, why don't you turn off damage to structures?

The armoured ship dock, aside from causing massive lag, is gonna be a red rag to a raging bull. ie a good challenge for a large company of bored griefers. Talk about over engineering a solution without eradicating the problem. you could provide offline storage, so that the ships aren't in the game. Yeh harder to execute admittedly, but at least it would be a permanent solution to lag and offline raiding. All you've done is give the small group less hope, and the larger company more of a reason to attack. Maybe instead of gaming devs you could employ someone who understands human nature, cos you clearly don't .

I bought outlaws at release and really enjoyed playing it. The griefing can be really bad and the support is non existent, but gameplay is great. Recently though some steam games have stopped loading for me and outlaws is one of them. But maybe one day they will put it on the xbox. And dark and light.

I'd just like to say too, that instead of gold for ships, you could earn notoriety points by acts of pyracy, ie stealing attacking, raiding etc, then the amount you have will go towards what size ship you can have. At least that way it would encourage Pyracy and make ship buying/building more enjoyable.

Tbh when I bought Atlas I was always hoping it would become a true pyrate game with the odd maritime legend thrown in. Like an open world version of Pirates of the caribbean. I guess it went down too many alternative routes for me, ie subs torps and dragons etc. Personally I hope skull and bones hurries up for release.

Yeh booze and women, but I am talking about ships. I find it ironic that you criticize a player for not being pyraty enough for the game, and tell them to play minecraft instead, when you are willing to buy your own ship, which a real pyrate deffo would not do.I am an authentic pyrate and I've got my sub and torpedoes to prove it. And a flying dragon. If atlas carries on down the trade, gold,warehouse, route there will be no pyrating left, just sea battles!

The trouble is they are always working on ark. Sometimes I think Atlas is gonna go back as an ark dlc, like it was originally.

Pyrates didn't really pay for ships though, they stole them. So are all the 'real' pyrates gonna stop playing now?

The trouble with ea in the case of Atlas is the fact the devs just keep playing with the game as if they have all the time in the world, and cos it's ea there are no consequences. As i've said before ea games need a time limit. Atlas is a good/bad example of what happens when they don't. Early access has now become a license for making money out of an unfinished product with no accountability at all, and having the punters pay to test it. instead of being paid to test it. I can honestly say that I will never buy another early access game again.

I think he only wrote one about pyrates, sometimes under the name of captain charles johnson. You have to be committed to reading though for it, it is very fact heavy, my version is called, ' A general history of the robberies and murders of the most notorious pyrates' catchy title eh? first published 1724 I think. Happy reading.

Mr Ranger1 I think you need to read a book by daniel defoe on Pyrates. A lot of Pyrates were ex naval captains and/or sailors and ex slaves who did not like how they were treated, or gave in to the temptaion of stealing, sometimes just for food. Blackbeard himself was an ex naval captain. A privateer ie drake raleigh etc, was licensed to engage in warfare with an enemy by commission. Although sometimes they also plundered enemy ships outside of commission. Most privateers even though they did steal from ships, did not consider themselves to be pyrates due to the fact that they only plundered enemies to their country. Most pyrates however would plunder any ship, because they considered everyone an enemy.

I know Atlas is a fantasy pyrate game, but pyrates rarely parted with money for ships, occasionally they would exchange unneeded sloops for supplies but not often. Pyrates, (and get ready for the amazing reveal) STOLE ships from merchants and navies. I'm damned sure that paying an honest buck for something is about as unwholesome and pyraty as animal crossing! Also I had a member in my company who would wreck his own ships and then use mine and just abandon them somewhere on the map, and he never shared anything of his own either. I booted him in the end, most unpleasant business. But you can put the settings to personal ownership if you need to. So I don't see how paying to build my own ships is gonna prevent company members wrecking them.

I think the thing that upsets most of us about Atlas is the same, and it's not the money. It's the potential this game started out with, that is now being gradually washed away on the tide. Even when I'd had enough of the updates and wipes I still played single player, cos I enjoyed the game so much. But now, well it's clear the window of opportunity for Atlas has gone, for me anyway.

Apparently Michelangelo was constantly harassed about how long the sistine chapel was taking, and according to history, he hated every day of the project. Every commission has to have a set completion date, due mainly to funding etc. How many people on etsy say your orders will be ready "whenever"? If they did they would not be in business very long. Also I don't think Michelangelo told the pope he would do a rough version and finish it when he could be bothered.

The problem is that steam and microsoft and other game outlets, don't have any time restrictions on early access. There should be defined parameters that force a game out of early access after an agreed period of time. It's steam and microsoft etc that we as gamers should be contacting about the issue, because they are at the route of the problem. And only they can stop the exploitation from happening, by having established rules for ea games.