Salty Jack

k.... thanks....

isn't the tax bank required to claim the island ?....

I have not played since the wipe was announced so I am hoping one of you hardcore players can give me a ballpark guess.... assuming that the tax bank referred to in the context of island ownership is the same tax bank we had before.... how long do you guys think it will take people to grind the levels to get far enough into the skill tree to make a tax bank ?...

pardon my interruption of you guys culinary picfest (some of that art/food does look pretty cool) but I have a question that seems to fall under the title of this thread.... I know next to nothing about the type of coding that is required for a game like this (or any coding for that matter)…. on to my question.... what does "cooking up a release candidate" mean ?..... do they not just write code, download code to server and push the start button ?....

Damn.... all this time I have thought to myself that all the doomsayers on this forum were over-reacting.... in all my posts here (yes all 15 of them) I have not once said a bad word about the devs…. Im gonna change that here in post number 16.... if they do not test pvp it will be an incredible mistake on their part that I have to believe will result in another start over so to speak.... there... I feel better now having said that.... getting that off my chest gives me back enough self control to refrain from typing words like stupidest devs ever.... I really am glad I did not have to go there....

SYDHART.... you may think your old at 43, but there will come a day when you would trade both nuts to be 43 again.... trust me I know of what I speak....

Not very encouraging....

We can test that in a weeks time if 3 companies work together.... one company busts ass and gets tax bank claiming island.... second company just builds.... after second company’s structures survive the 12 plus hour demolish limit, first company abandons flag claim.... third company claims island.... at that point we will be able to see effect of ownership change with second company....

All these old guys calling each other kid..... lol....

What ?.... I thought we were gonna test 1 flag per island starting sometime today....

NOT the end.... you think you gonna live on lawless long term ?... repair structure not gonna work on lawless...... good luck repairing every foundation and wall by hand every 4 days....

Yes.... that was well stated.... However I have two questions that I don’t think can be definitely answered until after the test server goes live.... i feel the are very important to PVE because of the potential for abuse.... how far into the water does the Island’s boundary go ?.... if only to the waters edge then island owner cannot delete pillars or even buildings blocking ships/shipyards.... second and most important I feel is, if a island changes ownership, will the new owner have a window of time to clean up existing structures he does not like?.... if that is so, the your base will never truly be safe..... like I said, I don’t think these questions can be answered yet but I do want them to be on peoples mind so they can be tested when test server goes live....

You make no sense.... and as far as MY question..... it was /is a damn important one for PVE....

Im thinking that on lawless you will have to repair each item individually.... That lets you build on lawless long enough for taming pens, shipyards to get a ship built, but would be too much of a hassle for long term.... But I guess we don't know for sure as they have not been specific about the repair structure when it comes to lawless....

I have refrained from posting in pvp thread because I don't pvp in this game... I do on the other hand read all the topics of discussion... I did just have a thought I wanted to share, then I will sit back and let those of you who pvp comment on it if you choose to.... Instead of trying to make company's downsize which It seems cannot be done, could there be a way to reward company for being small ?.... Reward a company based on how much damage they do to another company relative to the size of the 2 company's involved.... Land damage being restricted to the two parties involved in the war token declaration thing.... Company size plus the number of people in the company's you are allied with being combined for you total number.... You would be able to have a many allies as you want.... Your number when it comes to this mechanic would just be higher.... For example, if a 10 man company destroys the base of a 100 man company they would have 1000 gold deposited in their tax bank.... On the other hand if a company of 500 destroys the base of a 10 man group it will cost them 500 gold for the privilege of beating up on a smaller foe.... Ship on ship combat on the open seas would not be effected by this mechanic as I understand all of you want more ship on ship action....

I’m already the bad guy.... At home I have a bunch of tables and chairs spammed around my computer desk to keep all those greedy griefing @$&/;)&! family members away from my area....

I think that is what a lot of us wanted all along CAPTAIN JACK..... except perhaps 3 of each to encourage us to get on our ships and sail....

That’s the way I understand it also WINTER THORNE..... my only concern is what happens to the established structures when the island ownership changes hands after the structure has been there for weeks/months....

Yes Daemon.... now we are talking.... what you said is what I want to know.... it makes all the difference in the world as to if this system will work for PVE..... you ask if when your tax bank is built will all foundations/buildings that are already there belong to you?.... that is the million dollar question.... ih the answer is no.... I can live with the new system..... if the answer is yes then nobody’s base is ever truly safe because you can drop island claim and your buddy can immediately claim island granting him/you ownership of others base/foundations no matter how long they have been there.... do you think people will stand for that mechanic ?.... the fear of the new system working in this manner is the ONLY reason I started this thread....

Where in ANY of these threads has THIS scenario of what may very well go down been brought up ?.... it has not or I would not be posting.... look... you see my post count..... I obviously do not post enough to be a troll.... I am sure you have checked my profile to see what games I own and how many hours I play (something I don’t know how to or care to check about others)..... I loved Ark.... I love Atlas..... I’m gonna play it no matter what.... i would prefer that the PVE system be a grief free mechanic in which I can spend my free time playing as I enjoy.... building..... I see myself building and enjoying the game when. It comes back.... I also think I see how this system is going to play out.... i started this thread to discuss this likely scenario..... if you want to discuss THAT, then have at it..... if you want to continue to try to passively censure me then consider yourself dismissed.....

Says the guy who has been ALL OVER this forum the last month or so.....

Just build for me....

No Martyn.... I am a builder.... I like to build nice bases.... its not that I "cant" play on pvp servers.... its that I wont play on pvp servers.... I am not going to lie and say I would kick all your asses if I DID play on pvp…. I would not.... I would get killed over and over as well as off-lined.... I have NO desire to play that game.... I will get my pvp when Camalot Unchained comes out (where I can be a builder as well as pvp)…. And to you "don't test how the game is REALLY gonna be played" Willard, I have a place in mind for where I want to build my big beautiful base. If someone beats me too it, my bad, I will move on to plan B, plan C, ect… But if I DO get my spot and someone claims the island later and tells me I gotta leave, that I can no longer build there, I WILL outlast them. I do not want to spend my time in a pillar spam war no.... I want to build.... but I will NOT be pushed of the land I built on first.... and neither will most others who play this new system of PVP.... Im just telling how I think its gonna go down.... It will play more like Lawless or Ark as SNEAKYDUDE mentioned.... tell me Im wrong....

that is my plan.... pillar the area I want right off the bat.... and if the new "lord" does not allow me to FINISH my base I will spend ALL my time dropping pillars in rocks where they cannot be seen until I am allowed to finish my base.... If I cant build... neither will he.... does not matter if my pillars decay fast or slow or if I do not/cannot upkeep them.... I can drop new ones every day.... THAT is how PVE WILL be played.... welcome to the new system fellas....

When the server (real one not test server) goes live you better build your base fast on the PVE server.... It will take awhile before anyone is built up enough to make a tax bank and claim the island.... If you build/pillar fast enough you should be able to have your base where you want it.... If you are of the belief that when you claim an Island that you will have 12+ hours to delete what came before I hope for the sake of the game you are wrong.... If you can delete what came before when you claim an island the system will not work at all for PVE.... If that is the case and you have a building I don't want there I will just un-claim the island letting my bro claim it making everything you thought was yours eligible for deletion.... Then he will give island back to me.... Think I might test that when the test server goes online..... Oh wait.... who was it Willard ? said we should not test this kind of thing till the real servers go live ?....