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You can kill the kraken solo, there is a you tube vid of a person doing in a gall by himself. Also seen reports from multiple people they have done it or know of people doing it solo. You can also just join a group of people doing it, if you are by yourself and cant. I am not saying it is easy just it is doable, because multiple people have done it solo and duo wise. I would just join a group of people doing it. We have 3 modes now, hostile, neutral, ally. Go with allies or join a group that is neutral. It is still doable. Though I do not mind them locking it behind the kraken, I wish they had not. I think they should have made it more available. The only thing I can think of is that they want it as more of an upper end level thing, giving higher level players who have killed the end "boss", something else to do after. Which was a complaint by a lot of players, that there is not more end game content. If I had to guess id say the devs plan on expanding the trenches for more upper level end game gameplay.

Let me clarify something I realize I did not say. I personally would love for atlas to be eve like. That's what I would want and how I would have approached it. Since it is not that I think the concept here is bad, it that it would need to be completely redesigned and rebalanced from the ground up. The way this games "modes" are and the way the game works mechanically makes trying to do this type of idea NOW, with what we have, makes it not a good idea. The devs would have to redo everything to make this happen. The game at its core the way it plays out now in each mode makes each mode completely incompatible with each other. It only works on the unofficials because they have active moderators and administrators. I actually have mod ideas that makes it more eve like, but it needs to be balanced differently from the main game. I know you can mix PvE and PvP very successfully if done right. This game is not done right out of the box for it as a combination of the two. Obviously all this is all just my opinion.

There is also another poll on reddit. As of right NOW it has 240 votes, 216 for colonies at 90%, 24 for empires at 10%. Empires is dead already. A lot of megas have declared for colonies. Just like I and others have be claiming, the old system is a system the vast majority of people do not want. Super minority. The old system drove people away. Most do not want it apparently. Hear that BULLET FORCE? Now I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

This would not be sick. It would be a nightmare to make and balance. The griefing potential is way higher with this idea. It is not a good idea. You all realize they could have built it this way easily? And that as I said above this is already done on unofficials. Anyone thinking this is a good idea has not thought it through. Yes applying it separately IS a problem. You have not thought about how easy it would be to abuse something like this. It only works on unofficial because they have moderators. We don't have that on official. People cried about the PvP servers then left they definitely couldn't handle a non balanced system like this.

They are. You can also tell by the poll on reddit. No one is starting on empires. Out of now 147 votes, 90% are starting on colonies. Only 10% are starting on empires. There is also chatter on reddit and other places of more than a couple mega tribes committing to colonies. I am not worried, they will game the system as they can but no matter what they will be impaired, and no matter what they will have to fight people and not offline them or swarm them over for a week straight. So there is definitely more than a fighting chance now.

No it isn't. The population will be fine. What is not common sense is assuming the server that will have the MOST population by far would be reduced in size. It will be 15x15. Empires is looking to be DOA. It will be a ghost town.

LOL it is going to happen. It is happening! I wonder if Mr.Hardcore will see the irony in the fact he got his servers but no one wants to play that mode. And in fact his company supposedly announced they are playing colonies. So for all his huff and puff hard core this that his company is moving to the servers he says are for the weak. Supposedly.

Yes they only talk about it there, but 2-50 is a limit, the 200+ just means large mega companies. And yes you can limit one and not the other in English. You are correct they do not specify it per se but they imply it heavily. They might change that but I will bet 50 is the hard limit. English is neat sometimes.

Empires is DOA. Supposedly multiple large megas have already announced going to colonies. There is a new poll floating on reddit, which atlas server will you be starting on out of 107 votes, 88% for colonies, 12% empires.

The captains log says the limit is 50. 2-50. That is not assumption, that is what they said. It could of course change.

LOL I never said it didn't demand resources, just that it is not what a lot of people think it is. And I really could buy enough hardware cheaply. You can buy a 3ghz 64CPU 512 gb ram server for under 1000. The electricity bill would suck, but even that isn't what people think it might be. Depending on what someone takes in they might just do things like that as a hobby. I used to. For the price of a new turbo kit for a car you have more than enough servers to run the full 15x15.

They might even own the hardware and have it sitting and tended to by the host. that happens a lot in IT and server hosts. Also servers are not that much money in reality. I could buy enough hardware to run the full 15x15 easily from just slightly older server hardware and it wouldn't actually be a lot of money. I have wasted more on cars in one blow as a hobby personally.

Because this is not eve, the mechanics are completely different, the way the game has been designed is different. Not much is the same mechanically actually. Also Eve was designed from the start to be the way it is. This game was designed from the start with two totally separate rule and play pipelines. Now they are adding a 3rd. The rulesets for each mode are not the same. This is not eve. That's why it would be different here.

I disagree completely as well. In your design you want to shoehorn in all three camps into one place. How is that better? Now you have all three camps in the same place at each others throats and now you have to balance all three together. Would never work. The cost to run the server is not much for a game company that is fully funded and has straight said so in a twitter post. Money to run more than one server is not a big deal.

LOL your the one joining the mega tribe server.

I see the concern, and I have seen other echo it in recent posts. I do think it is something to worry about, but as I posted elsewhere if one mode flops they can easily just pull the plug and concentrate on the modes that work. I do not think population is going to be that large of a problem. I think the new system will bring back a decent amount of people. The devs are also looking at it from the long view, they want a sustainable game, population fluctuating during an alpha state game while still in development with a 2 year out actual launch window is expected. I think as I said a lot of people will return. Do I think it will be 40k people? No. But I think, especially initially, a lot more people than were on before the wipe announcement. I do not think that will work, if it could have they would have tried it. I do not think the two systems are compatible and the balancing would be a nightmare. People would game that system as well, and it would be harder to stop that because you would have two separate systems that you would be trying to shoehorn in together. And we do not need it. The population will come back and stabilize. Yes I expect them to spend that, it is not as much as you think and they have straight said in a twitter post they are well funded through the entire dev cycle. The small company map will be the full 15x15. It does not even make sense logically for them to do it any other way. The money to run it is nothing to them. The population will grow over time.

But they do not need to. The population will grow with the new launch. There is no reason to do this, and mixing all 3 populations together is not a good design for the game, there is a reason it was not done to begin with and a reason it was not done for the relaunch.

I was an IT manager and I have a heavy computer background. It is not even possible for me to get that kind of ping from Europe with my connection and from where I am. ANY time I ping to Europe I sit at over 150 ping. It does not matter if it is a game or a website or a FTP site or a friends computer. There is no fiber in my area. I physically can not get a 33 ping from Europe. Know what I get on average to the NA servers? 33 ping. I am halfway around the world from Europe. People need to stop spreading disinformation.

This does not even need to be done. Also there are MANY unofficials that do just this.

I think it will end up a ghost town after a few weeks. Before the wipe announcement the player base on the official PvP servers was low, and that is including all the smaller companies that were forced to join or die by the megas, plus all the other small companies and solos that had no other option but play on the main PvP server. Now they do not have to do that. I think the "mega" server will have a much smaller population than the new one.

LOL that is possible!

No they are not. I wish people would stop with this. I live in southern California, no way do I get 33 ping from Germany.

I am sure they will be 15x15. It would not make sense to make them smaller. The population will be large for this server. I would be money the 2-50 company servers will have a higher population that the one staying the same. Personally I do not think the "mega" tribe server will have a very high population. I could be wrong, but I do not think I am. I do not think that is the case. From a game development standpoint this is actually a smart move. This way they can see which modes are popular, and develop or codevelop the popular mode, and or drop any mode that does not perform. This also gives options to players which is always a good thing in a game. Now people that want to PvO can have their place, and people that want to actually have fun PvP and actually fighting people can also do so. Nothing wrong with that. Sure the player base is split, but this way they can see which direction to go, and drop what ever mode doesn't do well, or keep them both if they both do well. They have posted they are well funded through the dev cycle up until launch, new and old players will see the changes, see if they like them, and settle into one of the two modes. Choice is good.

There really is not other ships from mods. I have kept a tab on them, there is the Indiaman (which is cool but listed as beta), a mod called ships plus which will be a mod of vanilla ships (currently not functioning), one called heavy ship which is in german and doesn't seem to add any lore ships, looks like it is a mod of current ships, and one called total ships which also is not functioning at all (though it is being worked on). The officials will not be using these things. The devs will add their own eventually. That's my opinion anyway.

Oh I will have a blast doing this. I do these kinds of things for fun and as a hobby. Have for decades now. I have a heavy IT and computer tech background, I now have a chronic disease and no longer work so I nothing but time on my hands. I even bought an older full fledged real server specifically to do this and use as a testbed. LOL I am sure the devs are not looking at my ideas and do not care. As you said in another thread they are very busy. Nice concept though. I just wanted more ships and things associated with them so figured I would just make them myself since I think the devs have their hands full. This is not the only mods I have working in my brain, this is just the ship related things. I get bored easily now a days.