Nazi's, and insulting in game, maybe any chat filter or report system?

[Rumata 5]

I preffer to create tollerance community, yeah it's a pirate game, but it's not racist or nazi game.

 

So much insultings, and so much China hate? Yeah i'm bad in english, and?

Why China, so many questions to this guy, but only insulting answers.... Honestly - im russian, yeah im play on NA, cause it's more stable, my knowledge of english enough for understanding, and forum conversations about game problems, but i don't want to see nazi's in game, who insult any nation, only cause they don't like it, it's rude and stupid.

[Captain_Redbeard 1]

Looks like you dont know who the "Nazis" were. They just didnt insult... 

[Rumata 5]

3 minutes ago, Captain_Redbeard said:

Looks like you dont know who the "Nazis" were. They just didnt insult... 

i understand, but than what reason for using "cheneese" here?

Less chineese more a dck - i understand what he mean.

and in this context it doesn't sounds right

[Martyn 246]

None of it sounds racist to me.  But more of a snowflake making false claims of nazism and racism to defend his own insults against others.

Yes there are chinese players, russian players in game, yes, some of them are horrible people, the same goes for the europeans and americans, we all know we all have horrible people.   Is it racist to get angry when "a chinaman" exploits you? Is it really actually being racist at all?  Racism is about outright hate, loathing of other races, believing yourself to be innately superior to everyone else.  I don't see that here.  Just some childish hate and anger.  And everyone has the right to get angry.

I've found on my chain of islands that getting people to talk, breaks down these silly arguments and false accusations.  You have no right to go around make accusations of racism when it clearly isn't so. This makes you more in the wrong than the person you're accusing.  It would be better if you either ignored them or continued to talk, over time, both sides would get a better understanding of the other.  But just accusing people of heinous acts because you don't like what they're saying, that's as equally intollerable.

[MindOfMadness 98]

Someone needs a history lesson on who and what Nazis were...

[Rumata 5]

41 minutes ago, Martyn said:

None of it sounds racist to me.  But more of a snowflake making false claims of nazism and racism to defend his own insults against others.

Yes there are chinese players, russian players in game, yes, some of them are horrible people, the same goes for the europeans and americans, we all know we all have horrible people.   Is it racist to get angry when "a chinaman" exploits you? Is it really actually being racist at all?  Racism is about outright hate, loathing of other races, believing yourself to be innately superior to everyone else.  I don't see that here.  Just some childish hate and anger.  And everyone has the right to get angry.

I've found on my chain of islands that getting people to talk, breaks down these silly arguments and false accusations.  You have no right to go around make accusations of racism when it clearly isn't so. This makes you more in the wrong than the person you're accusing.  It would be better if you either ignored them or continued to talk, over time, both sides would get a better understanding of the other.  But just accusing people of heinous acts because you don't like what they're saying, that's as equally intollerable.

well mb i'm not right, but it's strange for me, when some people call me china man in laugh context, and says "it's more of an insult in this game" - sounds strange for me, mb culture differences, and my bad translation.

 

Exploit?

Racism - you know, in russia we have only nazi/national problems.

Like i said me english not perfect, it's more technical, than speakable, so maybe i'm not understand what they mean in fact.

But, like you said we all have bad people, so i think report forum branch, will be pleasure, mb not for me, but for someone else.

 

If you say so, and like other says - sry )

But still have suggestion about report theme.

[Rumata 5]

42 minutes ago, MindOfMadness said:

Someone needs a history lesson on who and what Nazis were...

oh cmon, nationalist, nazi, same for russians.

For us nazi - nationalists, radical nationalists. It's not history, it's more culture difference, who is nazi? - well for me it's peoples who says things like "hate chineese" or "hate americans" or "hate germans, only cause they are germans" - it's nazi for me.

Even they haven't any nazi symbolics or even they "hate hitler" and etc.

 

I think it's only my bad in translation this chat, but if smbd says - "it's more than insult to be cheneese in this game" - i can translate this only like national insulting.

[MindOfMadness 98]

17 minutes ago, Rumata said:

oh cmon, nationalist, nazi, same for russians.

For us nazi - nationalists, radical nationalists. It's not history, it's more culture difference, who is nazi? - well for me it's peoples who says things like "hate chineese" or "hate americans" or "hate germans, only cause they are germans" - it's nazi for me.

Even they haven't any nazi symbolics or even they "hate hitler" and etc.

 

I think it's only my bad in translation this chat, but if smbd says - "it's more than insult to be cheneese in this game" - i can translate this only like national insulting.

You don't get to choose what words mean...  It doesn't matter what it "is for you".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Nazi

The National Socialist German Workers' Party known as "Nazis" committed mass genocide and died out a very long time ago. Yes, there are racist people in the world, but that doesn't make them "Nazis".  I find it appalling you would compare killing millions of people to saying mean things in a video game. SMFH

 

P.S. They are bigots anyways...  They don't seem to have a problem with American Chinese players, only players from that region of the world.

P.P.S. China #1

Edited December 30, 2018 by MindOfMadness

[MindOfMadness 98]

3 minutes ago, Rumata said:

 

 

Not gonna quote your words because I'm not gonna get ban for that shit...

You're a complete fucking moron if you think genocide is equivalent to saying mean things on the internet. I cited dictionary definition as proof...  You offered "I think"

[Rumata 5]

1 minute ago, MindOfMadness said:

 

Not gonna quote your words because I'm not gonna get ban for that shit...

You're a complete fucking moron if you think genocide is equivalent to saying mean things on the internet. I cited dictionary definition as proof...  You offered "I think"

it's close, nazi was radical nationalists, radical social nationalism.

 

Yeah here is the difference between killing and insulting peoples, but both this things shitty.

If somebody say me - you are dck cause you russian - how i must react? You think it's normal?

 

You talk about rithorical, it's have no matter. You know terrorist too can be radical nationalists, they blow up bombs and hate peoples only because they are from different religion or country, i don't care how you call it, nazi, nationalism, radicals, terrorism - i don't care, but in healthy community have no option for insulting somebody, only because he born not in your country.

[MindOfMadness 98]

34 minutes ago, Rumata said:

it's close, nazi was radical nationalists, radical social nationalism.

 

Yeah here is the difference between killing and insulting peoples, but both this things shitty.

If somebody say me - you are dck cause you russian - how i must react? You think it's normal?

 

You talk about rithorical, it's have no matter. You know terrorist too can be radical nationalists, they blow up bombs and hate peoples only because they are from different religion or country, i don't care how you call it, nazi, nationalism, radicals, terrorism - i don't care, but in healthy community have no option for insulting somebody, only because he born not in your country.

There is a HUGE difference between killing someone and insulting them in a video game... What the actual fuck?!

Are you trolling? Nazi means the same in Russia by the way...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-russian/nazi

 

And "you are dck cause you russian" isn't hate...  it's rude, yes. But being called a dick just means you're a jerk, not that they hate you...

Russian isn't a race... it's a nationality.  Racism is hating someone because of their race, not where they're from FFS.

Nationalism has no natural negative connotation aside from one's own subjective view. Do you love Russia? Does that mean you hate people from other countries?

None of the words you used imply hate other than "Nazi" which hated Jews and are long gone and "terrorist" who actually kill people...  Again, not the same as saying mean things on the internet.

Edited December 31, 2018 by MindOfMadness

[Rumata 5]

5 minutes ago, MindOfMadness said:

There is a HUGE difference between killing someone and insulting them in a video game... What the actual fuck?!

Are you trolling? Nazi means the same in Russia by the way...

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english-russian/nazi

 

And "you are dck cause you russian" isn't hate...  it's rude, yes. But being called a dick just means you're a jerk, not that they hate you...

I talk about reason of insulting - insult somebody only because he born not in your country.

1 hour ago, Jerryn said:

Let's cut back on the back and forth, please.

If the OP wants to make a suggestion for a game feature, then they should post something in the suggestions forum: https://www.playatlas.com/index.php?/forums/forum/69-suggestions/

And, the basic concept of the idea can be discussed without insulting/offending other races, nations, or even individuals.

 

Of course, sry for offtop.

I don't try to insult smbd, i try to explain my opinion )

[Martyn 246]

3 hours ago, Rumata said:

Racism - you know, in russia we have only nazi/national problems.

This is where the problem lies.

For english speakers, Russian Cyrillic does not show up on the chat box.  So to all intends you speak in [] like the chinese do, because chinese also doesn't show up, so many people make the mistake of assuming all Boxes writing is chinese.. when in fact it can be a number of other languages, mostly russian or east asian.. So really this is just a case of mistaken identity.. I suppose you could see it as racism to a degree, but for many people, the epidemic to pc gaming from china.. is a major cause for concern.. so it's likely that many people, many of them americans, british,euros, russians etc will also get caught up in the pool of anger this issue is causing.

[Rumata 5]

On 12/31/2018 at 4:47 AM, Martyn said:

This is where the problem lies.

For english speakers, Russian Cyrillic does not show up on the chat box.  So to all intends you speak in [] like the chinese do, because chinese also doesn't show up, so many people make the mistake of assuming all Boxes writing is chinese.. when in fact it can be a number of other languages, mostly russian or east asian.. So really this is just a case of mistaken identity.. I suppose you could see it as racism to a degree, but for many people, the epidemic to pc gaming from china.. is a major cause for concern.. so it's likely that many people, many of them americans, british,euros, russians etc will also get caught up in the pool of anger this issue is causing.

yeah, but i never wrote in chat on ru language, cause i think it's not tollerante to come on NA servers and spam on langugage which nobody knows.

I think we all normal people, nationality decides nothing.

Call me china man - not insulting, that's ok, i understand we all dunno who stay before us )

Racism - it depends on races, black, asians, european etc. So it was my mistake when i call him racist.

Nationalism - depends on nation, when chineese hate korean - something like that - and that's what i'm talking about.

 

I know China have the biggest number of hacks today, but they have biggest number of peoples on earth too, soo )

Yeah they are cheaters and hackers, but it's not give you rights to insult any chineese player only because his countrymans hackers...

 

I know that issue, they play with us too )

 

I talk only about one thing - insult somebody only because he is from China, Russia, USA, England, France, Norway - you have no right to insult somebody, only because he born in his country - it's nationalism, radical nationalism, it's non tolerance, it's just disgusting - that's what im talking about.

Im russian but i hate nationalists, cause of that i don't want to see, when somebody insult other nation and coutrymans, only because they are from another country, and i will always  report this. Only about that, i'm talking.

About national insulting, game not the right place for dat shit, it's not political discussion, it's stupid insultings based on stereotypes.

Why i link anology with nazi's - cause im russian, we fight against them, our country very proud about that victory, we lost many peoples, and it's important for our history, for our mentality. 

- And cause nazi kill jews only cause they were jews and all like that, you know - it's very close i think.

Yeah insult not kill - but it's where we all starts, game isn't place for nationalists, place for smart patriots, but nationalists not smart, they are only small pieces of angry and darkness of hate - and it's not smart, it's not right and it's path to void.

Edited January 1, 2019 by Rumata

[BoomerMcFisticuffs 12]

I'm surprised this isn't a post about south sea slavers.