Realist

1 minute ago, KingLlama said:

Did you not notice the last patch? They are working on it.

Yep and the wife beater always says he will do better as well. If you want to believe everything that is told to you then eventually it becomes your fault for getting hit

Just now, McGimp said:

He throws insults you throw EA EA EA.

Is there really much of a difference? Neither can be debated. Saying ea shuts down debate same as insults.

Very good point man. Whole pot and kettle situation we got here

inwould agree to stop throwing around insults if they agree to stop giving excuses. Maybe that would be a good compromise

3 minutes ago, archaegeo said:

And again, your discussion of your position boils down to insults, which means you have no position.

I mean it is unforgivable we havent heard from the CM in 4 hours.  How dare he go quiet that long on a game that hasnt even launched yet.

https://twitter.com/Jatheish/ 

Yeah pretty sure he should have stayed on the ark side

5 minutes ago, Tiberius_theron said:

I'm honestly tired of the fanboys making up shitty excuses. If your wife or husband cheated on you? Would you make excuses for that poor ass behavior too? Grow a pair of balls.

I know right? 

Actually for the fan boys they would probably make some sort of excuse so they could stay with their husband/wives

some people like pretending nothing is wrong so they don’t have to feel bad or stupid 

2 minutes ago, KingLlama said:

They'll fix it. Take a deep breathe, everything will be okay.

Oooo careful throwing out statements like that man. You should probably throw in the word “maybe” or “might” that might make it seem like you have common sense 

1 minute ago, wakko151 said:

No its not. But its been less then a month on a game that is not coming out for 2 or 3 years and you are just trolling at this point.

If you don't think you are trolling, maybe try to understand my point of view. Why do I think you are trolling?

Because your responses are only saying negative statements that only server to make you feel better with no actual talk about how to make the game better. Maybe if we were in a forum all about you I could accept that. But this is an Atlas Forum. A game in early access that came out less then a month ago and the only thing you have to add to the conversation is "Games Dead. Games Broke. I spam faces."

But thanks for making the day go by faster.

Nah, I have had a good amount of normal conversations with people that I disagree with here. And after we argued for awhile we came to an understanding. Happened plenty of times.

what I won’t do is let people get away with giving excuses for every single failure and bad decision. Not going to happen and I will always be here to call it out.

they are not doing a good job right now and I will keep saying it until I believe they are doing a good job  

1 minute ago, Tiberius_theron said:

So we're right back to the Devs ignoring the player base AGAIN! Ghost Ships still spawning by the hundreds out to sea. When they need to be an EXTREMELY RARE SPAWN! LESS THAN 1% CHANCE! Skills system still sucks balls also, solo play is dead, small group play is dead. 

Yeah, I tried to tell everyone that not only would the hype stopped after people paid but so would the optimizations and communications.

believe me it is still happening but if you haven’t noticed the small decrease I am not sure what to tell anyone anymore.

just to expect the slow decrease to continue, you were way too optimistic if anyone thought they would keep it up. They just wanted your money

7 minutes ago, boomervoncannon said:

That’s it. I’ve had it with the overspawns of ghost ships and land critters both.  I’m sailing my @#$&ing raft to my base on Ragnarok and I’m coming back with my Tek Saddle Mosa and my level 350 Tek Rex.  Then we’ll see what’s up. You want some of this Mr Ghost ship?  Pack of wolves? Say hello to my little friend.

I think we’ve just been coming at this wrong guys. Sometimes you gotta go outside the box.

 

Who knows maybe the tek transporter doubles as a time machine?

funny how the only thing that would save this game is ark

almost like it would have been better being a dlc?

10 minutes ago, wakko151 said:

The spawn chance and max spawn per server settings need to be adjusted. Keep it how it is now for ruins servers.

 

As for everyone coming on the forums to cry about how the games dead, games broke...

Its Early Access, less then a month, been a dumpster fire, but the game is fun. Its playable. Its better then any other survival sandbox to date. Go to the store and buy some tissues. If you didn't think problems like this were going to happen in an early access game in this genre then listen to the people who have been thru this process before. Things need to be tweaked. Server setting files need to be adjusted. If you have your own server you can do it yourself, or you can wait and deal with the Official servers like everyone else.

Early access isn’t a blanket excuse for everything

mans yeah the game isn’t dead but it sure is broke

4 minutes ago, RedXStrike said:

So here's the issue - I have plenty of materials at that multiplier (2x10 - have more than 20, for instance). But still can't craft with the blueprints found in the flotsam. Things without the modifier work fine.

Do you have the skill learned?

4 minutes ago, boomervoncannon said:

Quite true. I recommend Ragnarok or Crystal Isles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

oh you mean in this game?

Yeah I don’t think there’s any land left for that sort of thing. Check back later....

2 minutes ago, BoneHacker said:

I completely understand where you are coming from. And will probably agree with you in 2-3 years.

If we want to be realists, then we should note this game is extremely EA. It's a cool concept if they can pull it off. You're just saying they are basically done and doing the bare minimum now that they made their money. Yet it's still daily updates.
Early Access, they said there was still 2-3 more years of development. And in all reality Ark was a great game because of unofficial servers. Tons of people spent good time on there.

And this game isn't bad, they just are pushing out silly things when there are bigger issues to be working on. Not balancing the game, but adding quality content (in some cases means balancing).

Being realist here, I can tell you that neither of us know for sure where this game will go.

My OP was to bring to light easy quick fixes and what should be done, and as I'm sure is what people expected the ghost ships to be. I'm trying to be constructive and you're just pooping on the parade with no constructive comments. So I tip my hat to you sir and bid you good day.

Hey that’s cool. We don’t have to agree on everything. The world would be pretty boring if we did.

and technically you are right, I don’t know with absolute certainty that atlas will fail completely. 

I do however know that history does repeat itself. Bad news for wildcard is a lot of people already know they are horrible before hand. They are at a disadvantage this time since we know about their BS already.

a lot don’t want to walk the same path twice 

13 hours ago, Arzicane said:

In some tradition games yes, in ark and in atlas, blueprints are not consumable. It promotes sharing and trading from my point of view, I am just use to it from my time in ark.

No, it promotes raiding. That is the only reason they are not consumable 

13 minutes ago, RedXStrike said:

I'm seeing this in various Blueprints. Instead of just the amount, it say something like Thatch 2 x 14. Or Wood 3 x 10.

Can someone help me understand what that means?

It means for the better quality you need either 3 times as much or 2 times as much of the material. Basically it is a more expensive version of the craftable for a better quality 

1 minute ago, BitterAsteroid said:

but they mess with me!!!!

 

Ah ok, build a base on land where they can’t mess with you anymore?

4 minutes ago, BitterAsteroid said:

I am needing advice on how to level up since they remapped and point the skill tree. I am level 21 and im trying to get firearms and cannons to combat ghost ships but i am unable to do so as it is taking forever to level up. Any tips please?

Yeah don’t mess with the ghost ships

3 minutes ago, BoneHacker said:

Yeah but I hope its the vision that gets achieved. Mr. Pessimist lol

Nope, you said my name wrong.

i don’t think you understood their vision. They want to make money. They made a really good trailer to get everyone hyped, knowing full well they would piss people off. They also knew the hardcore ark fans would stay because they are used to this kind of buggy mess. They also knew most of the others wouldn’t be able to get a refund after a certain amount of time.

why do you think they aren’t bothering to hype up anymore? 

They made this game for their hardcore fan base, not for casual players. These hardcore players are the ones that don’t work and spend 20 hours a day on this game.

it isn’t pessimism when you know for sure what will happen. That is just being real after that

4 minutes ago, vispera said:

Im to old to be a pessimist. Ark turned out to be ok and for the $20 i spent on it i got almost 3k hours of play. Was on my own server and that will be the same thing i do for this game.Looks like they want people to join big clans and im not having kids tell me how to play a game.Might not get whole map with private server but will be able to play my own way.

Ah ok, the whole conversation changed then. Everything I say is always 100% right but what I say is towards official servers.

nevermind then dude. I am on your side with the private server thing

5 minutes ago, MaxPower said:

Eh, perhaps not. The NPC ships could be based on the current player ships with some minor alterations... and the NPCs already exist as does the basic AI code to make them work (the ghost ships AI). We also don't know what they've been working on already. I'd like to think its always been the plan to add more NPC ships into the game (otherwise PVE is going to get boring quickly). 

Yeah unfortunately pve will get boring quickly. I mean they already have confirmed that breeding and old age death will be a thing but that hasn’t been implemented yet. 

I don’t see them rushing to do something not completely confirmed, when they still have to add everything that was confirmed. 

Who knows though you could be right but I also bet they break it 

2 hours ago, Captain Kuro said:

First of all, I have no complaints about them, I like that they are spawning more. On PvE, it was getting rather boring when sailing, and there is now a bit of challenge having to navigate around them.

For me though, I think they should be a lot more rare. Personally, I think they should be replaced with normal NPC enemy ships which are much weaker. And then have the Ghost ships as a much rarer spawn. For me, seeing a ghost ship should be an awesome sight, not just "oh another ghost ship".

Anyone else thinking similar to me?

It would take them a good long while to make and design a whole new ship with different npc’s.... and getting them to work right? 

Yeah I believe that is a good fix but that wouldn’t happen for months at least.

Wow yeah there is no way. They can’t fix something without breaking something else.

even if, and we are talking a very BIG if, it does go to console, they will always be at least 5 patches behind pc.

I mean with ark we were always one update behind but man, these guys would never be able to make an update good enough to pass QA inspections

microsoft and Sony would just keep throwing it back to them saying “nope, it’s do it again”

literally 5 patches behind. No joke

you guys haven’t even experienced under meshing yet.

3 minutes ago, Klippers said:

Not sure how they are doing it but here's the clip of them sinking my ship

 

 

You got under meshed by a ghost pirate ship

theu are spawn under the map now you won’t even be able to see them coming 

1 hour ago, Winter Thorne said:

 

Pffffft.   It's not up to you guys to say  what kind of game this is, who it's for or how it has to be played.    Let the devs say that.  Once they do, maybe some of us will decide it isn't the game for us after all.  Or maybe not.    Try saying "I HOPE this is not a solo or small group game" instead of pretending you have some secret access to the design spec (if there even is one), because we all know that's what you really mean.

Yeah the argument over small tribe big tribe type of game is pretty mute. 

The one thing we do know is that it is a game. 

The rest we will have to find out later

2 minutes ago, vispera said:

I know its wildcard the minute they touch one thing another breaks but im being optimistic.All you can do in a EA game that is a MMO.

The. If you know it’s wildcard then I am surprised you are optimistic. I stopped being optimistic after I was done with ark. 3 years of being optimistic, but no longer. I already know what happens next and next after that. These guys work like clockwork.

even though they did actually start good communication because people were complaining they didn’t communicate, you can already see that is is starting to slow down again. It is at a slow rate but it is enough to be noticeable.

pretty soon the patches will slow down and communication will slow down. I have no doubt they will be running out of money pretty quickly, especially with all of the refunds going on.

dont be surprised if they make the aging and breeding a mandatory paid dlc soon

10 minutes ago, archaegeo said:

People who go out prepared are sinking them for good loot

Plus with speed sails you can easily outrun them

In that video above he is dying of thirst (so no provisions) and he trying to duo sail a dual masted ship (needs 3 people) with no NPC's or other crew and no cannons

I.E totally unprepared and should not be out on that ship

Ah I get it now. You wanted to use the word unprepared or out prepared to trigger people  

that only works in a pvp stand point. Ghost ships don’t prepare, they just are so there is no out prepared in this situation.

totally cool if you don’t want the ghost ships needed and all but don’t worry they will get nerfed again and solos will be able to kill them at that point

Just now, archaegeo said:

Yes, i do agree there are still too many of them, but thats what EA is for is fine tuning....

That being said, most people going out and getting sunk by them are doing it to themselves....

They either:

1) go out solo on a sloop or higher - You need at least 1 person on wheel and 1 person per mast (NPC or crew).  If you dont have that you cant react fast enough to avoid them if thats your call

2) go out without cannons and #1 - Cant fight, but you arent prepared to run, using normal sails vice speed sails that let you get away.

3) dont understand how to run with the wind, determined to get to where they are going regardless of the threat.

Crews going out with enough people are escaping the ghost ships easily (though again, there are too many).  Crews going out with cannons are sinking the greens.

Ah more EA BS no it is not about preparation. It is about a broken game that can’t even be considered early access

that was a waste of a few paragraphs