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Can you believe the sheer incompetence of these devs?? What are you doing!

So that torturous lagfest everyone subjected themselves to? All gone. Great job. 

Imagine how much better this game would be without stupid buffs that let people who've played longer endlessly scale higher than new players...

1 minute ago, Nari said:

Yes there is and it's in the name of the genre, the foundation you speak of, which is survival. Ark didn't go far enough in my opinion. Surviving consisted of eating meat...

Are there alternative solutions to legacy? Sure, but are you honestly content with them shilling out a half assed copy pasta mechanic or oh idk... want them to actually try to innovate a little.

"Name of the genre". So putting on "legacy" means you should just have a legacy system regardless of the rest of the game.

Let me ask you this : what does it bring to the game?

You say it brings meaning to death. There is already enough meaning in death. It wastes your time, and it moves you miles away, and you potentially lose your stuff. That is enough.. Anymore than that and you've gone overkill; you go overkill, and you risk people leaving the game. 

Imagine if every time you lost to a boss on dark souls you didn't just lose your souls, you had to chop off one of your fingers in real life too. Would that be a good addition? Do you just endlessly escalate punishment up and up and that makes the game better?

No. Don't over do it. It is all about balance. You don't want to over punish people.

Aside from that? All legacy does it take away from the game.

It takes away your character, and it takes away the cosmetics of your character; two things I'd rather have in the game, than something that adds nothing.

1 minute ago, Nari said:

You seem to be linking the two as one in the same. They're not. Hardcore and Character legacy serve different purposes.

The game was originally dlc for ark. It isn't any longer, but that doesn't mean the core structure from which this game is built isn't ark.

Right, and i'm saying if it isn't hardcore, there is no point going halfway hardcore; you may aswell just let people keep their characters at that point.

2 minutes ago, Nari said:

One of it's biggest flaws in my personal opinion.

It isn't a flaw, it is what kept the game from dying. Or did you not notice how more people played normal servers over hardcore?

Hardcore elements are a nice little sidegame, but you shouldn't be forcing them on the wider audience. 

Ark currently has more players than atlas too.. Obviously there are various factors at play, but it all adds up.

So after finally making it to the fountain.. It was probably the most laughable excuse for a game I've ever seen.

A literal lag slide show.. Pathetic. 

Not only is it bad in design, it is bad in execution too.

16 minutes ago, Nari said:

How do you propose you make death actually matter in a Survival game then?

Why do you think death NEEDS to matter? 

Ark wasn't about death mattering, it was about losing all your hard work. Losing your character is too far towards hardcore. Having your character was what allowed you to jump back in and continue to want to play; you lose your character? Your chance of quitting is high.

5 minutes ago, Nutcutt3r said:

Maybe just come back when you show the info that ever said it was a solo game. Like they have to add an introvert island or something.

You can play solo, it is a solo game. You can play with others, it is a multiplayer game.

There you go.

1 minute ago, Nutcutt3r said:

Trash if you have to work for it, an achievment if someone gives it to you right?

Welcome to the world of participation trophies.

Are you spastic or something?

All I want is to keep the character I already have. What sort of mong would be against keeping the character they had? 

Save achievements for things that don't make our characters look like ass.

33 minutes ago, McGimp said:

They mentioned a few times in the QA that they wouldnt comprimise their, “vision of the game”. If what ive seen so far is a reflection of that vision, im guess based on the reception of the majority of player - this game is doomed to fail.

its a shame, the devs im sure are working very hard on this game. If only they would be a bit more open minded with player feedback.

Well, from the makers of ark, I'd think they should be familiar with the term "adapt and survive".

39 minutes ago, Asanna said:

I'm sure eventually there will be a tracker of some kind

by then we'll all be long dead. Still no location for the fountain on EU PVP.. It is just so fucking trash.

9 minutes ago, Hodo said:

Man half of you who are complaining dont even play the game anymore and you are still bitching.  Go on to the next new game and complain about how bad you are at that game so they can laugh at you there too.  

^This joker probably went there with a 20 man group.. What a chicken.

Dude, nobody cares if you company carried you to the fountain, solo players need access to it too. And plus, i'd rather laugh at you, because you can't think of anything good the age mechanic brings to the game.

Climb out of the devs ass, try it on solo, and then come back here and tell me this isn't the biggest pile you've ever seen. 

Like.. I can't actually believe how badly they handled this... 

Guys.... WE DON'T WANT TO PERMA SAIL JUST TO MAINTAIN COSMETICS. 

WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP LOSING/SWITCHING CHARACTERS. 

If some people do want that? Let them buy a rename token, and let them re-customize their characters.

DO NOT : 

1. Send us to an island, where PVP is still turned on, and the aggro ranged on PVE enemies is 5 miles, for enemies that are ridiculously high level. This results in the most frustrating experience I've had on the game thus far.. People sailing around cannoning people's boats while they're running to shore to get the fountain, whilst these people are under pressure to get this done before their character dies. 

What happens then? I have to sail all the way back, where it will likely happen again.. That is not fun.. I just want to KEEP MY CHARACTER, and keep in non-fugly. Why must you make that a chore??

2. Not give us any real indication which island to go to.. Great fun wasting time there.. Each time we get to the island?? We have to run through the cannonfire of every OP npc on the island. 

This is the most unpleasant shit I've ever played in a long time.. I'm done with this game; and i'd guess a lot of other, who were hopeful they'd get to keep their characters are too.

Why is there no word on the EU side?? Wtf is this?

If my character dies, i'm so done with this trash game.

They don't even tell you where it is, so you're sitting around waiting whilst your character dies.

I told you this mechanic was trash, and you didn't listen. As predicted, here we are.. It involves, as I said, sailing around look for a random location with the fountain in it. How fun.. And the best part? The agro radius on everything on the island is ridiculous, and you need a squad of people to even attempt it.. .So dumb devs.. You're telling me I have to lose my character because of this???? You don't deserve my time.

I wish.

3 minutes ago, Realist said:

Hate to break it to you but this company of the business version of a stripper. They will shows you all of the aewesome stuff they have that you really want, and you will pay for it.

the thing is with a stripper you are never going to play with it. Look don’t touch

Not sure how this contextually fits with the narrative of this thread.. But okay

Does anyone know if you need a quest to find it?

Like, if I stumble upon it, can a drink from it? Or is there so requirement ?

You tried.. It is terrible and unnecessary.. Nobody wants to go looking for a random spawn on a set of islands for their entire existence, please remove this thing that only hinders the game.

7 minutes ago, Doje said:

I don't specifically mind that, since it's only once in like 3-4 weeks. If it was every few days it'd get old really quick, but I don't mind seeking out the fountain every few weeks for a permanent stat boost.

The reason it is so frustrating is because it attempts to lock people in the game with the threat of killing off their character, unless they make the journey.

2 minutes ago, Gfnjr said:

@Adfaz What do you see where it says you lose your character??  What are you talking about?  It says debuff 

You die when you hit 100..Rumour has it.

How you can suggest forcing people to repeatedly seek out a fountain just to keep their character is beyond me. It is the worst thing about V5.

People just want to get on playing the game, they don't want to have to worry about stuff like that.

5 minutes ago, Nutcutt3r said:

It is what it is, if its gonna make you quit before you even see how it plays out go ahead and quit already.

Sick of these one thing that you have to change because I dont like it and am entitled posts.

Entitled? What are you even talking about? Do you even know what that word means?

Saying you want something isn't the same as saying you think you deserve something, which is what entitlement actually is.

Saying "I don't want this trash age mechanic in a game about pirates", isn't entitled. It is just saying what you do, and do not want.

1 hour ago, Realist said:

 

the age thing I guess isn’t all that bad because that one is a fresh thing to do. I don’t think the breeding or fountain of youth is a good idea however. If you are going to bother with age then it should just be a permanent thing as life is, or don’t bother with it.

 

As someone who has been pushing for them to scrap the age mechanic, it would be even worse if they made death permanent.. Save that for hardcore servers.

An age mechanic doesn't belong in a pirate game.. It is just so dumb.

You're right though, in general? The game suffers from serious convolution; they're trying to do too much at once, and the vision of the game is getting lost in the process. 

I think to fix this convolution they should : 

- Remove age mechanic, make it a slider in the character creator

-Cut down the tedious chore that is the vitamin system, as someone suggested, change it to : nutrition (fruit veg), protein (all types of meat), and hydration (water). 

-Tames?.. I'm not even sure if tames belong in a game like this tbh… I'd have preferred if they gave us more tools and stuff, like a wheelbarrow to move large amounts of stuff..  Horse riding is fine, but everything else is a bit...Crews are enough, they should just expand on crews and scrap beast taming outside of horse taming.

-Simplify the melee combat; remove all this stupid lock on nonsense, and this standing still to attack.. It just doesn't work. Even Arks basic melee combat is better than this convolution.

12 minutes ago, Cpt. Dragoon said:

So how will have to find this fountain of youth will it give you a marker on the map once you get the quest or do you have to go to every power stone  on the map just to find it? idk if this is a good move. cuz that forces some of the ppl who just want to build and sail. or just pvp they have to go run dungeons to reset the age of there toons  

Yes, it is a dumb idea. 

If people start losing their characters, and they haven't even fixed the "load preset" bug, then you're going to see a lot of people quitting I think. This is probably going to be the straw that could break the camel's back.

I know i'll probably be one of the people who quit.. I'm not having my character taken away from me because of some retarded mechanic that doesn't belong in the game. I'd rather quit than hassle on dealing with that constantly.

Just now, Hodo said:

LOL I guess people want an easy mode building simulator?  

Really none of the stuff in this game is that hard.  Sure you have to eat a balanced diet.  Sure you have to drink water every so often.  Sure you get old and may have to find the fountain of youth that moves around every 50 game days from one of the 8 power stone islands.    It isnt that hard, no really it isnt that hard.  I for the most part do everything I need to survive day to day in 10min of game time.  I login gather eggs from the two chickens I have tamed, put them on my ship for the crew to eat.  Dig up potatoes once every 4 days, for me to eat.  Kill 1 cow or bull every 3 days for prime meat.  Fish once a day for fish meat.   And gather fruits once a week for vitamin C.   

This isnt that hard, the WHOLE maintenance thing takes 10-15min at most per day.  And I am actually playing the game while I am doing it.  

I gather wood, fiber, thatch and metal, that takes longer than anything else.    

The main struggle in the game should come from the PVP element.. Everyone knows these games are made for PVP.. PVE is for building simulation.

1 hour ago, Nightstrasza said:

They do, cyclopses take massive extra damage into the head, but they are so incredibly tanky that they need propably like 50+ such shoots to take down, not to mention the high 120 lvl ones and the fact there's like 1 per meter so the entire islan is just covered with them.

So basically, they've killed the game?

I can't believe how dumb the devs are.. I tried to warn them several times about this stupid mechanic, and here they are going ahead with it... 

Nobody wants to faff on with some garbage age mechanic, please, for the love of god, remove this trash from the game, and make age just something in the character creator.