Jozzie McTowel

So I see alot of complaints about the wipe but either the game is unpopular enough to prevent a repeating of the launchday scenario or devs are driving the already dying game back into old issues without having their servers stable enough to even handle +40 players on a grid.

16 Freeports (2400) & 58 (8700) Lawless on a server (like NA PVP f.e.) = 11100 potential spots for players per one of the 4 big official servers. That probably will be enough for the current playerbase of +-10k overall.

In case it would pick up significantly when the wipe is done and at 'relaunch' these servers are only able to handle about 40 players before becoming unplayable there is room for about 2960 players on a server. Having 4 servers gives room for 11840 players.

Now knowing that alot of people avoid the hardest environments to start a new character with very little chance of survival the best Freeports in terms of conditions will be clogged with alot more players. Those who are eager to restart or are new to the game might be force to the harsh biomes and having a very bad experience at first and being left behind again in terms of finding a nice spot before everyone else rushes out.

Can't see how they want their servers to handle this again, if people start spamming rafts in freeports at relaunch we're in for a long night.

3 minutes ago, rasemaier said:

How?

I never tried but if u manage to get hold of a ladder it might still get overencumbered, if u get higher than the boat itself and are able to toss items on the deck of the ship en masse u will be able to overencumber it and make it sink, this is not something I encourage you to do but if it's really bugging you and you are very very sure those boats are from people long gone then be my guest and find out how to trash someones boat on PVE, it's not like devs are banning people or it.

46 minutes ago, Forb Hidden said:

Actually it's absolutely impossible to sink a ship in pve. They don't decay and there's no timer or else until they sink. 

Are you new or are u assiming they properly fixed the PVE ship weight sinking bug? Cuz for all I know it's not 100% fixed and still doable to sink ships in PVE with weight.

Find a bug to sink them, I'm pretty sure that still is possible.

1 hour ago, Dollie said:

I'm a little confused as to what your complaint is based upon considering we haven't announced the details of our claiming system rework yet. Some players have speculated on what it may entail but it's just that at this stage, speculation. 

There will be time for everyone to give their feedback on the system as we’ll be deploying the changes in advance on a publicly accessible test network before it hits the Official Network. 

 

Too little too late I'm afraid, dropping under 10k peak in players during the week and probably soon not even over that 10k in the weekends either. How is your 40k players on a world gonna happen when it's this low, so scattered around and such a depressing pile of code you guys have the guts to call a game. Looking forward to spamming the stream again to be ignored some more by you guys. Your ship is sinking, and scooping up water with buckets ain't gonna prevent it from sinking before it left the EA Shipyard, it will crash on release like many of us have lost ships.

1 hour ago, UDO said:

which ones ? as they are all lower then they started with ?or are unable to read a chart ? every game ever released follows similar patterns of decline , 

 

there are very few if any games that have more players playing now then when it launched they decline early then settle off , all the games u linked have been around a while have stabilsed , 

 

they all dropped off, then they flat line more or less after a while , this game will be the same it will flat line at a certain point to match all the other graphs ..

 

your example would have had more weight had it shown graphs of all game released in december ,which would have shown them all with similar graph lines , learn to understand how to compare titles not just pull random ones out of thin air , not just random ones  but the top games played on twitch and steam , 

The ones I posted as an example was when someone else in another topic said compare it to the top steam games cuz that is what Ark and Atlas were in that person's eyes so yes that's what I compared it to. And yet again u fail to see that there are games that have more players currently playing it than when they launched their game meaning their playerbase increased over time rather than just bleeding out like Atlas is doing right now. Stop arguing for the sake of arguig and use your eyes.

42 minutes ago, UDO said:

hahah your funny they are all showing the same pattern , just different amounts of players ....all started off high and have dropped to 1/2 or less original players , your example isnt very good ,

 

 

Are u blind or just unable to read lines on a chart? There are plenty of games in that example that started with a much lower playerbase than there are playing nowadays.

56 minutes ago, KevinNight said:

Sounds great with only 1 problem I still can't play due to a bug? Sent 3 tickets no response ask the community for help they tried but didn't help? This was after a patch I got on 2-8-19 so ya haven't played in awhile I be been on to try and do something but I have up. I am a new player I play for a week and then the bug hit and haven't really got into the since. Don't really think you guys even care since I not even got to talk with a real person other then the community. This is your game you responsibility.

 

If I had to say so a file needs replacing and or fixed which I do not know how to do

Yup, the only official who ever talked to me was this forum moderator in terms of insulting the devs. Plenty of topics and bug reports are not looked at and yea the support ticket is just a placeholder right now.

15 minutes ago, Realist said:

Yeah, no mans sky is right back in the toilet where is was before. They also tricked people into coming back but they found out quick lol. But you are right, if you want apples and apples then no mans sky and atlas are pretty similar. How do you like them apples?

And No Man's Sky also made fake promise on reveil that it was a multipayer game while it wasn't, at least it wasn't for a long time until they added it in. So yeah if u wanna compare Atlas to No Man's Sky you are making a good comparison as they both sold half truths.

10 minutes ago, Jean Lafitte said:

You were not comparing apples to apples.  Do I need to post my chart of Atlas vs No Man's Sky again?  Charts and graphs are relative.  You can make them display anything you want by manipulating the way the chart is laid out and you can furthermore create exactly what you want to show by cherry-picking the comparisons, which you obviously did.  Furthermore, charts only show the past trends, they do not predict the future.

Dude, the comparison was made cuz people like u kept saying: Atlas and Ark are great they are on the top steam games list in terms of amount of players, so i took that list to compare it to. But if u wanna compare '"apples to apples" I suggest u take some survival games that also released in EA. And I have checked those out before making my previous post and believe me, if i post a comparison to that it will make Atlas and Ark look even worse than they do right now. Alot of these EA games start off with a small playerbase and increase it over time, where here we have some overhyped shit that actually runs like shit. Compare it to 7 days to die or stuff like that I dare you

This is my couple week old comparison, for those who said it was normal to lose that many players over time take a look at these top Steam games and look at their All Time Peak and their 24 Hour Peak. These pictures are still generous to Ark and Atlas because of them being a few weeks old. Only games which is doing bad in comparison is GTAV and that's probably because their online part is also a cheatersfest that isn't taken care of by the devs but hey they also do still release new content right?

Keep calling people who make these threads attention whores and keep telling yourself that all these numbers are "'normal" for any game. I've made a topic weeks ago about the comparison the other games and my man, Ark and Atlas are two shitshows together, those who say that it's normal to have lost so many players and considering it's just 11k players at peaks dispersed over so many servers and grids it's just a wasteland in game. Most people probably even just log in to keep up maintenance for their flags and log out shortly after. Very immersive gameplay right? Then u have these forumtrolls who say go play unofficial or something else if u don't like it... First they didn't listen to us since launch about the real isseus, the game nearly bled to dead then they say they gonna fix alot of bullshit players really wanted to have fixed, messed that up, game bleeds to death even more. Those who believe they will finish this and it will ever get out of EA status are delusional.

The only official reply from anyone was from Jerryn who's a moderator here and that was cuz i called the dev team crackaddicts and he said that's a nono ... I understand now that crackaddicts have more perseverence and insight than the devs and it was wrong from me to insult crackaddicts in such a way. I uninstalled this game last night after my first official reply being a moderator telling me what I can and cannot say on here. Since my only reason to keep playing the game was to build a pyramid of shame for the devs which I completed last week on Gravelton Island L10 EU PVE server and to get my refund somehow but yeah let's face it these junkies already ran off with my money and plenty of others. 40k players on a single server ... they are gonna have hard times trying to reach 40k players combined on all servers during the period of a single week in just a few more weeks from now.

Let's face it, this weekend we might peak around 12-13k players and next week we won't see peaks of over 10k during the week and that weekend will probably be the last one where this game get's over 10k players during the rest of it's EA existance, after that it's either gonna die off slowly and never will be finished or the best thing that could happen is that some capable studio buys over GrapeShit and it's assets so a team of pros can deliver us a game that was advertised to us and not whatever this thing is we were playing until now.

Might be my last post since there is no more point of me to make, just wanted to give special up yours to Nutcutter, Percievel, Jerryn, Jatheis, Dollie, Jeremy Stieglitz and all u muppets who think everyone needs to "git gud" or "stop whining" we all paid too much for whatever this piece of code is supposed to be and have a right to complain just as much as anyone else, if u don't like to read complaints don't read them but don't tell people to stop whining or shut up when they experience a bad game.

Towel out, without a refund, will keep dissing whatever game company pulls another trick like this in the future.

So over a month now and still no official reply in here ... Keep updating this shitshow Jat, at one point you'll have more updates out than players online.

How much longer before u shut down the official servers due to lack of interest and being a big cost if we compare it to the sales and refunds from Atlas alone? That Ark money won't last forever and this project is a pure cashgrab with the result that this game is a crabshack.

Just took a look at Battlemetrics website to see how many people are on the various official servers, I could choose 3 official servers excluded NA PVE, for some reason it's not listed atm or it's somewhere in the list and I haven't found it. Either way, if u rank that list on highest players per server u will see the first page of 10 servers already drops down quickly to just 30 players per grid. Going down the list towards the back this decreases ofcourse, to hit the last 5 pages which are 50 (51 actually) grids/servers where there is not a single player online. From those 50 (51) servers from 3 out of 4 official server lists there are only 4 Freeport regions in it, 2 Central Maws(?), and 4 Lawless regions. So still 40 servers where areas are claimable that nobody is online at this very moment.

51 servers without players

52 servers with 1 player

70 servers with 2 players

65 servers with 3 players

70 servers with 4 players

61 servers with 5 players

58 servers with 6 players

43 servers with 7 players

34 servers with 8 players

40 servers with 9 players

+-110 servers with 10 to 15 players

40 servers with 16 - 25 players

13 servers with 26 - 55 players

1 server with 129 players online which is currently NA PVP E9

Even when NA PVE would be included I doubt this list would become much better. Now take in mind that each server has up to 4 islands where these players are also (possibly) divided over just to give an idea how much fun it must be to play Atlas nowadays. I'm not gonna take the time to try and add all those numbers up to see how many people are actually stlil playing on official servers, was hoping there was a website that could show me this by just selecting the 4 official ones showing how many players were on each but couldn't find it yet. Sure these numbers are still to get slightly higher as there is a weekend starting for most and well if the trend continues this weekend we'll peak around 12k maybe 13 if lucky but over the last weeks the playerbase peaks in weekends drop off around 2-4k players a week so yeah, have fun while it lasts.

It's a copy paste but just to add up to the 80% loss in numbers to put in in perspective a bit.

I just took a look at Battlemetrics website to see how many people are on the various official servers, I could choose 3 official servers excluded NA PVE, for some reason it's not listed atm or it's somewhere in the list and I haven't found it. Either way, if u rank that list on highest players per server u will see the first page of 10 servers already drops down quickly to just 30 players per grid. Going down the list towards the back this decreases ofcourse, to hit the last 5 pages which are 50 (51 actually) grids/servers where there is not a single player online. From those 50 (51) servers from 3 out of 4 official server lists there are only 4 Freeport regions in it, 2 Central Maws(?), and 4 Lawless regions. So still 40 servers where areas are claimable that nobody is online at this very moment.

51 servers without players

52 servers with 1 player

70 servers with 2 players

65 servers with 3 players

70 servers with 4 players

61 servers with 5 players

58 servers with 6 players

43 servers with 7 players

34 servers with 8 players

40 servers with 9 players

+-110 servers with 10 to 15 players

40 servers with 16 - 25 players

13 servers with 26 - 55 players

1 server with 129 players online which is currently NA PVP E9

Even when NA PVE would be included I doubt this list would become much better. Now take in mind that each server has up to 4 islands where these players are also (possibly) divided over just to give an idea how much fun it must be to play Atlas nowadays. I'm not gonna take the time to try and add all those numbers up to see how many people are actually stlil playing on official servers, was hoping there was a website that could show me this by just selecting the 4 official ones showing how many players were on each but couldn't find it yet. Sure these numbers are still to get slightly higher as there is a weekend starting for most and well if the trend continues this weekend we'll peak around 12k maybe 13 if lucky but over the last weeks the playerbase peaks in weekends drop off around 2-4k players a week so yeah, have fun while it lasts.

Your number one priority is to read through this forum and have a good memory to see the things u can and can not do in this game without it ruining half your day or work, this is a pro tip

Just took a look at Battlemetrics website to see how many people are on the various official servers, I could choose 3 official servers excluded NA PVE, for some reason it's not listed atm or it's somewhere in the list and I haven't found it. Either way, if u rank that list on highest players per server u will see the first page of 10 servers already drops down quickly to just 30 players per grid. Going down the list towards the back this decreases ofcourse, to hit the last 5 pages which are 50 (51 actually) grids/servers where there is not a single player online. From those 50 (51) servers from 3 out of 4 official server lists there are only 4 Freeport regions in it, 2 Central Maws(?), and 4 Lawless regions. So still 40 servers where areas are claimable that nobody is online at this very moment.

51 servers without players

52 servers with 1 player

70 servers with 2 players

65 servers with 3 players

70 servers with 4 players

61 servers with 5 players

58 servers with 6 players

43 servers with 7 players

34 servers with 8 players

40 servers with 9 players

+-110 servers with 10 to 15 players

40 servers with 16 - 25 players

13 servers with 26 - 55 players

1 server with 129 players online which is currently NA PVP E9

Even when NA PVE would be included I doubt this list would become much better. Now take in mind that each server has up to 4 islands where these players are also (possibly) divided over just to give an idea how much fun it must be to play Atlas nowadays. I'm not gonna take the time to try and add all those numbers up to see how many people are actually stlil playing on official servers, was hoping there was a website that could show me this by just selecting the 4 official ones showing how many players were on each but couldn't find it yet. Sure these numbers are still to get slightly higher as there is a weekend starting for most and well if the trend continues this weekend we'll peak around 12k maybe 13 if lucky but over the last weeks the playerbase peaks in weekends drop off around 2-4k players a week so yeah, have fun while it lasts.

You didn't notice the playerbase decreased by about x5 up to x10 times? It's normal u are able to find land easier these days. The ones who complained about it when it was an issue are now the ones who just stopped playing weeks ago. Few more weeks and u can have nearly all land u want, nobody will contest it and u won't get any taxes on it cuz nobody will be around to harvest

On 2/18/2019 at 11:52 PM, Beardacus said:

I was thinking the same thing tickets filed as far back as Jan 14th no response.

They don't respond to anything that isn't promiting their game, bug report section is a wasteland where even topics are closed of issues that aren't resolved at all or properly. On twitter they only reply to things that are positive about Atlas or have nothing to do with the game itself. Meanwhile Ark's playerbase is even going down with Atlas playerbase, soon they are able to shut down all official servers and do even less about issues and let modders take over with unofficial servers, it wouldnt surprise me they never finished the game within the 2 year EA period cuz let's face it, they robbed us from our money and aren't listening to our feedback until it's too late and they see they have no players left, few more weeks and the only ones left on official servers are hackers, cheaters and die hard idiots.

1 hour ago, Rats said:

Servers - 18899

Players - 9230

 

You do the sums ?.

2 servers for each player? Do the servers play on the players?

TBH I don't think the "whole server" stats would do the new players any good either as it's advertised as 40k players on a gameworld they would see what, a couple thousand at most? Since most people claim to have moved to unofficial and myself when I login I see 15-20 players in peak time and about 1-4 when it ain't peak time for my region. This week will be the 5k player week at lowtimes and with some luck slightly over 10k in peaktimes, with a weekend of 13k players upcoming and after that a week where peaks won't go over 10k until it's weekend (maybe). New players have the advantage to proper test the game for 2 hours and still get a refund. Either refund it or play on empty servers until Grapeshot shuts them down and forces everyone to play on unnoficial servers on an Early Access game which isn't 3 months old yet. So on full release if it ever will happen, it will be without official servers, some MMO they delivered huh

So u think 10-20 players per grid is more not "dead looking"?

EU PVE L10 Gravelton South Island is the location of the Pyramid, you're all welcome.

Is Atlas dead yet?

Don't forget the heatwaves that start at night and are gone by morning