Jean Lafitte

5 hours ago, LaiTash said:

1) Made of stone

2) 5-6 layers of planks, made of see #1

3) Cannon and mortar towers looking in all directions, made of stone too

4) Able to sail on land and climb on mountains so that we could hide them from other ships and keep them out of their cannons range

The devs said on livestream that you don't need land in this game and you can use your ship as a mobile base; obviously ORP for ships will never be a thing so when exactly will we be able to build ships like that? We have stone steering wheels already, which is a step in the right direction but obviously not enough for a mobile base.

You couldn't afford the paste and metal it would cost.

2 hours ago, Dragonchampion said:

All this hate, all this rage at the developers, and I think people forget one of the biggest things about the developers; they aren't flawless.

When they do things right, I'm happy to let them know.  I have done so in the past.  When they screw things up, I'm also happy to let them know. I have done so in the past.

I understand mistakes. What I don't understand is the refusal to communicate and blatant ignorance.

They don't seem to understand that people wouldn't be reacting the way they have if they didn't give a damn.  I think everyone has seen the potential of this game, a potential to be something they'll play for a very long time. When that potential gets smashed in the face by half thought out decisions and knee-jerk reactions, I don't blame them one bit for being upset.

This latest patch? That was a slap in the face to everyone who took the time to leave feedback.  Kinda hard to have sympathy for someone who does that.

And you're assuming it'll make it to release. We're less than a month into this and the playerbase has already exploded twice over bad decisions.  How many more before they throw their hands up and quit.

Someone said the other day something that stuck. It feels like their intent is to see who the last person to rage quit is.

19 minutes ago, mndfreeze said:

You also only need to do the bottom layer of stone if you are so worried about animals and that being the reason.  You can once again, spend a few hours sailing to a freeport and make alllllllll the paste you want.  You can get enough metal from just banging out normal rocks but i *KNOW* there is metal in the tundra and polar regions.  

Incorrect. I've had them chew on walls, floors, doors... all of my crafting tables are 1 square away from a wall because they can even chew through it. I have a wooden pier with wood railings. All of the floors are damaged and half the railings because of wolves, lions and snakes.

And it's not like they give up when you walk away. And for some real fun, watch an alpha snake chew your wooden pier to bits some time.  Wooden ceilings on stone pillars. They eat through them like cardboard.

Come to my island. It's a 2 island grid. The islands are huge. On mine... no... metal... I have seen exactly ONE sulphur node and that's pretty useless.

3 minutes ago, mndfreeze said:

*ALL* resources are worth trading for.  Have you gotten any blueprints?  They all require multiple types of the same resource.  We trade our metal for other peoples metal, our fiber for other fiber types, etc.  To say  you have nothing to trade is just scapegoating and again, you don't even need to trade for sap. You can just go sail and farm it yourself. It will take you a few hours at most.

I'll trade you my 100k berries for your 100k sap. Deal?

No?  How about wood?  Still no? Rocks?  Oh come on.  Thatch?

Well, damn. That's all I got where I live. Guess I'm shit outta luck.

Ya know what, you're gonna keep preaching your bullshit philosophy and I'm not changing my mind.  Done.

The jist of all of this is, I don't mind trading. Give me something to trade for.  And I don't mind that I need metal or paste to make stone. What I do mind is that I'm FORCED to use stone if I don't want my shit destroyed by snakes, wolves and lions overnight.  Otherwise, I wouldn't give 2 shits.

8 minutes ago, Grongash said:

We have murderous Mantas, so im not holding my breath.

Wait, you forgot the Galleon smashing whales.

6 minutes ago, Grongash said:

You have never been to the tundra, clearly. We dont have SotD... we have SotD in conga-lines. Dont talk about how easy it is to dodge them. Yes, one.. or two.. or 3. But normally in that region we have a LOT at the same time and we have to play frogger to even get through.

Which is exactly what I'm doing now because I got UTTERLY stupid and decided to see what was at the nearest freeport.  I'm now anchored off some island trying to repair my ship because the winds died down to nothing and I got shot to pieces trying to do the SotD dance.

He's clueless.

6 minutes ago, Sneakydude said:

I still think the additional addition of sap and metal is stupid, either way you try to better it or break it down. You will be sunk one way or another.

Thank you.  Prior to this bullshit I was content to go elsewhere and get sap, fiber, crystals, etc.  I traded for them.  Now, instead of having to get ONE item to build with, I have to go find 3 that I don't have.

I pity you guys on PvP servers.  I got a stick shoved up my ass, you guys... you got the whole damned tree.

Just now, mndfreeze said:

That has nothing to do with having to leave your island to get resources using the current planned design or mechanics.

 

I don't mind one bit leaving my island for resources.  I love trading and have done that in other mmo's. But goddammit, gimme something worth fucking trading... do you get the picture????

13 minutes ago, TerrorTrooper said:

I never thought I would say this.. 

And the people in the tropics are laughing at your ass all the way to the tax house.

I"m not asking for a handout... equality.

40 minutes ago, mndfreeze said:

d) move out of the tundra if you don't like the resource spread there and don't want to have to travel to get stuff.  I have to travel TOO the tundra to get things.

 

Sure thing, you tell me where your claims are and I'll be right there.  Would you mind expediting the process by demolishing them first?

3 hours ago, Ridia said:

Either way, hundreds of players have to waste precious game time on sailing up to 5-6 grids away just so they can build what is essentially a basic necessity for survival, whether it's pve or pvp. 

They mostly likely did do this to get you off land more. The problem I have with it is they turned everyone in the center of the map into kings and queens, sitting on mounds of sap and metal and those of us in the tundra became their bastard step child.   WE are going to be forced to sail and they are going to sit on their ass and watch the tax bank overflow. 

Oh wait... they did give us cotton a while back. I forgot.  I spend 30 minutes on 2x harvest with a bear and I get 5k fiber.  But 2 grids south, I farmed fiber with the same bear for 30 minutes and got 100k and that's paying a 30% tax.  So, it's was more like a, 'oh, you want fiber... har, har... here, you now have fiber.'

And I bet you thought this game was a grind last week, eh?

2 hours ago, SockStink said:

Perfect response, I agree with every word.

There is a work around I found for this. So lets say you have a foundation next to a sloped hill. Place a second foundation on the current one and then extend a ceiling over the area you want the new foundation. Now the foundation will be able to snap in and will ignore the terrain(clip into it) It is a great method to remove any gaps your base may have otherwise had. After that foundation is down, quickly pick up the ceiling and stacked foundation in order to repeat the process.

Thanks for the idea but I don't have that much paste.

1 hour ago, mndfreeze said:

You can literally go to a freeport with a bear and get so much sap and make so much paste it's ridiculous.  

OH... I forgot to mention.

I'd like to suggest an experiment to you.  I want you to start a new character.  Hop on your little raft and come to the tundra.  And when you finally find a place to settle down, start building.  But don't build with stone because there's no paste.  Which is a good thing because on your island, there's no metal either and everything you get from rocks is going to go to repairing your tools.  You can just use wood.

Tomorrow when you log in and a wolf has chewed it's way through your wooden walls and floors, eaten you, your bed and the chicken you tamed... you can just jump back to that freeport and dream about taming a bear.

43 minutes ago, mndfreeze said:

You can literally go to a freeport with a bear and get so much sap and make so much paste it's ridiculous.  

Ah, let's see... the nearest freeport to me is 2 grids away. Nice.  In a tundra.  Oh snap... no paste.  Oh I see... half way across the map.  Got it.

44 minutes ago, mndfreeze said:

Stuff isnt supposed to be right outside your front door.

You are absolutely correct. Let me tell you what isn't outside my front door.

Saps	Honey,  Gum,  Nectar,  Sugars,  Sugar Cane,  Syrup

Group	Usable Resources
Coal	Anthracite,  Graphite,  Lignite,  Nitre,  Peat,  Sulfur
Metal	Cobalt,  Copper,  Iridium,  Iron,  Silver,  Tin
Crystal	20x20px Amethyst,  Calcite,  Herkimer,  Pearl,  Quartz,  Tellurite
Gem	Diamond,  Emerald, 20x20px Garnet,  Opal,  Ruby,  Sunstone
Salt	Flake Salt,  Iodine,  Kala Namak,  Pink Salt, 20x20px Rock Salt,  Sea Salt

Group	Usable Resources
Coral	Brain Coral,  Fire Coral

Group	Consumable
Vitamin A	Aloe,  Basil,  Beans,  Beet,  Carrot,  Celery,  Chamomile,  Chili,  Cilantro,  Coconut, 20x20px Egg,  Garlic,  Maize,  Mint,  Oregano,  Parsley,  Poppy,  Potato,  Rice,   Thyme,  Turmeric,  Turnip,  Wheatgrass,  Wild Onion,  Wild Pepper

Do you get the picture?  I have trees. I have rocks. I have berries out the ass and a miniscule amount of cotton.

I have no tradable RESOURCE on my island.

Since I have nothing to trade for paste or metals, the grind just became worse by a factor of 10, because now, I'm going to not only have to grind the basics on my island (of which fiber is damn near non-existent), now I'm going to have to sail somewhere and grind there too.  And let's not forget that I'm going to have to *GASP* play the SotD/Whale/Hurricane obstacle course game the entire way.

MEANWHILE... all you sun loving bastards in the tropics have all the materials to build... wait for it... right outside your front door.

Come to the tundra and try to survive before you come up with some asinine 'gid gud' post.

11 minutes ago, Roughrider said:

Upkeep should be 100 gold per day on EVERY claim flag beyond the first for the company. Players must insert the coin into the claim flag itself. Claim flags can only hold 200 gold maximum at any one time.

Gold? No, that's silly. PASTE.  2000 paste per day!

and 500 metal.

2 minutes ago, sand man said:

Great film, need to watch it again soon

You know what's really sad. Not only is that scene very fitting, so is the title of the movie.

'Dumb and Dumber' for those of you not familiar with it.

27 minutes ago, Jean Lafitte said:

I just read the patch notes for upcoming v16.  Reducing metal and pastes costs is NOT a fix.

Forgive me for quoting myself but I feel like I deserve this.

14 minutes ago, Percieval said:

When I said the same, someone living in tundra almost blasted me for saying it because they have paste enough. I’m confused. 

Well, I didn't see your post otherwise I would have laughed at them.  For the moment, I'm OK on paste and sap but that's because I did some trading a week ago for it. Right now, I've suspended all of my building projects and I've suspended building fire arrows so that I can have that resource to keep my furs from disintegrating.  My fortitude is high enough now that I can survive most of the day outdoors in hides. Night time, I still have to either use furs or wait it out inside. And even then, there are times when my ass is sitting on the grill to keep from freezing to death.  So that should give everyone an idea of just how valuable a commodity paste is to those of us in the tundra. 

And I'm lvl 49.  Just imagine what some noob on a raft would have to go through now. It took me a good 2 weeks of levelling up and dumping into fortitude before I could safely remove my furs. They would have to choose between repeatedly freezing to death and building something that won't get eaten or wearing furs and living in a wooden shack that every alpha is going to chew on.

If the devs want metal and paste to be used to build stone, fine. I can live with that. Provided they put both on my island just as they have for those in the middle of the map or they give us something that the middle of the map doesn't have that's just as valuable as paste.

18 minutes ago, Kirves said:

Yah i'm very disappointed about these upcoming patch notes. They nerfed elephants in the ground we made some valid points and then they buffed the weight on animals. This is the same issue, you made a change devs we've responded please get rid of the paste requirement and metal. 

Nerfed?  You're lucky.  I HAD elephants on my island (do note the word had).

I just read the patch notes for upcoming v16.  Reducing metal and pastes costs is NOT a fix.

I live in the tundra.  There are 0 metal nodes on my island.  There are 0 sources of sap and there are 0 sources of paste.  That includes bugs and coral.  As a matter of fact, there are 0 gems, 0 salt, 0 crystals, 0 honey, 0 sugarcane, 0 turnips, 0 vegetables, 0 of anything that anyone would trade for except bears, horses and a few wolves (which have been nerfed to hell and back) and all of those are common enough in the warm regions and do not even begin to resemble a consumable resource.

If you INSIST on forcing this BS down my neck, at least have the courtesy to put a resource on my island that I can at least hope to trade for paste.  If you look on the maps on the wiki (which I realize aren't perfect), the VAST majority of unique resources are somewhere in the center of the map.  The ONLY true unique resource the tundra has is penguins and other than looking like a moron when you hug one, the only purpose they serve has is little use outside of the tundra and can be offset with parrots. I do not count yeti because they are not on my island and for that matter, neither are penguins.

Please stop turning those of us in the tundra into your bastard step-children.  I've already had to dump the vast majority of my skill points into fortitude just to survive here. I should not have to be shackled because I want to build a house that a snake won't eat.

At least have some decency and move all metal to the tundra. Give those of us in the tundra SOMETHING of value that your sun worshipers don't have that we can use to trade for sap/paste.

Thank you.

1 hour ago, refund said:

you play on  fullhd right? and what do you mean by get more than 2 gb? isn't the rx 580 a 8gb card , never heard of a 2 gb version ... and thank you for your time

Here, this should tell you what you want to know.

I stepped out and looked at the terrain.  The memory shot up to 3.6g. Again, high, not elite.  Which is why I suggest the 8gb version if you want to run elite textures.

1 hour ago, refund said:

you play on  fullhd right? and what do you mean by get more than 2 gb? isn't the rx 580 a 8gb card , never heard of a 2 gb version ... and thank you for your time

Ah, you're right, I have the 4gb version. For some reason I thot it was only 2.  Sitting in my in-game house with high textures, not elite, and everything else on max it's using 2.4gb video ram with the game running and the temp is hovering around 60 C and the fan runs around 40-50%.  I only paid like $150 for it so, for the money, I'm quite happy.  With elite textures, it was maxing out the ram.

This one is the one I have.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126196&Description=580&cm_re=580-_-14-126-196-_-Product

I honestly couldn't see paying over $300 for 4 more gb of ram.  And since there's not a huge difference between elite and high textures the card is well worth it.  I got it about $30 cheaper than that price though.

1 hour ago, boomervoncannon said:

Wait....so you guys are saying I should definately upgrade from my Coleco, right?

Did I say AMD... I ment Timex Sinclair

1 hour ago, refund said:

hey guys...my pc died on Christmas and my pc wasnt even good enough for this game...i want to buy a config with a ryzen5 2600x,16gbram 3000-3200 and a rx580 or rx590 on full HD... could u please tell me your fps and overall peformance? i would be very thankful if u could help me out with this topic....maby one of your friends kind of have the same components

thank you...and have fun playing

If you get the 580, get more than 2gb.  I'm running the 2gb and had to take the graphics down from epic to high because of texture sizes.  It kept lagging whenever I was near another player.  Otherwise the 580 does a pretty decent job. Everything else is on highest settings and I normally don't see any low fps. I don't use a fps counter so I can't give you exact numbers but I'm pretty confident it's in the 50+ range. A lot depends on how much stuff it's trying to render though.

I'm running an 8 core AMD at 4.0 ghz with 32 gigs and it's pretty smooth. The thing I SERIOUSLY recommend, an SSD large enough for the OS and Atlas.  Putting it on the SSD made a HUGE difference in performance.

19 minutes ago, Nightstrasza said:

Sea mines would actualy be cool... as long as they need maintance and alot fo resources... and don't one-shot.

Pillars. Already implemented.  But, people have gotten banned for using them that way.

13 hours ago, RoyAwesome said:

I would really like to tax our own company members like you can tax others. In Eve, taxes affected your own people and it allowed for the ability for guilds to provide a lot of ships and stuff for their members.

The same would be nice for ATLAS. Being able to tax company members would allow for most companies to be able to provide for their members and reduce the needs to resource constantly.

The difference is, in EVE what players collect belongs to them.  In Atlas, what players collect already belongs to the company.  If you are going to do this, the only way it makes sense is to let players have their own structures, their own ships and the resources they gather and not give it all to the company.