Traven Guthrie

So sailing out day 1 through lag and rubberbanding, then keeping people online 24/7 for a week while people tried to steal land constantly in order to keep what we had claimed makes us lazy??  You have a skewed reality of things.

Its not communist at all.  The people in our company ~ 30 dont pay any tax at all, because our nation owns those resources and if someone comes from the outside and wants to take those resources they can but they pay a cut for farming on OUR lands.  might check your definitions before making a comparison.

im not sure how you are disagreeing with me here...

I think the wolves were fine before they buffed them. maybe they could do without the knockback. Lions are easy just shoot them in the face when they grab you.

Its the numbers tho... of all animals! the other day standing on our watchtower i counted 17 giraffes in bow rang of our fort. thats way too damn many. and I leveled from 48 to 49 killing normal wolves in ONE day. easily killed over a hundred wolves in one area in one session. kill them and they respawn ad nauseum.  numbers need to be nerfed and i think that will be a step in the right direction.

we've got crude on our island in O9

What I d agree with, is the ships of the damned. Should be more of a fabled thing that makes you soil yourself when you see it around. Not a scourge that one only has to sail 5 minutes and see 4 or 5 of.

Having npc ships that can be attacked and boarded or sunk would be very welcome tho.

Pirates are notoriously greedy.  and Im positive that if they werent too few to challenge any legitimate government in open conflict they would have claimed and dominated as much land as they possibly could.  So I think this fits pirates pretty well. 

This is a very welcome change!  They could easily change the SOtD exploit by using the same damage mechanics as animals. If you aggro a giraffe and go hide behind a structure or ship someone else owns the giraffe does no damage. just apply that same ruleset to SOTD and that bit of griefing is fixed.

30 minutes ago, JackTheWack said:

As ive sayd before 2 claims per person and you can go over it but need a upkeep , straight up some resorces and pay a certain amount for keeping them up once a week or so. 

Okay, just give them this. I can get behind this idea,. At least some groups willing to grind a bit more will maintain areas that are rich in resources, then make a killing in taxes when the rest of the area is spammed out from overpopulation and they have to come farm resources on their land. bigger companies who maintain their land properly will reap the benefits of this idea!

There is something broken about the ownership mechanics on captured things. each part of the claimed ship is still owned by the previous owner.  I have a ship i "own" that was abandoned on our shore, but I still cant do anything with it.

Also had an issue with a member which resulted in them rage quitting the game. they happen to own the flag thier stuff was built on. so when the timer ran out we captured thier flag, but all the buildings stayed owned by them and even tho they say demo allowed we cant demo or do anything with them.

I put in a support ticket. got a response about 12 hrs later (much faster than I expected) GM just asked a question about our company ownership settings and I answered. then it just went silent. havent had another response in 4 days now.

Sorry for that. Ive got 300 hrs level 52 working on 53 from discovering other islands, been to at least 7 grids, seen a lot of places. and I actually look at who is where because im interested in helping this game get better.

If you are solo we have room for people like you. simple rules, and lots of freedom.

10 minutes ago, JackTheWack said:

Again you are showing that you havnt had to claim land for a long time now , if you didnt know you can refresh the 3 day protection timer with jsut replacing the flag and yeah if someone catches you while its down and places his own it will turn into a waiting game.  You dont even need to sleep on a claim if you refreshed the flag the 3 day protection is so fun . Love the new setting they added that more claims = lower take over time but it dosnt apply to the 3 day protection that you can just refresh.

We are well aware of the mechanics of the flag system, as we have been defending our territory since day 3. without the three day protection solo players wouldnt even be able to log out of the game without their stuff getting stolen.  One guy is gonna get tired of running around to all his places every three days, or... he grows a community that people like to be in, or his stuff gets taken when everyone knows he is a bad landlord and no one supports him.

7 minutes ago, JackTheWack said:

Yeah its hard to make this traven guy understand that all is not good with this game

Sure, claim to know what i don't understand.  Anyway I never said that all was good in this game... far from it. There are many things that need to be fixed.  Your "fix" would make things worse

4 minutes ago, Winter Thorne said:

You are speaking very personally and I am not.

No i am speaking objectively. I have no reason to speak personally. You make a poor psychologist.  I see the things being cried for here being damaging to the game as a whole, not for our community. As i said before our 25 people could just spread out and take 25 flags instead of 15. The flag limit wont have the result you think it will.

5 minutes ago, Winter Thorne said:

You said that dev statement meant the game was always intended for some people to be serfs

In a way yeah it is. Maybe some people dont mind being serfs? And if you dont want to be a serf there are ways not to.

7 minutes ago, Winter Thorne said:

One player should not be able to have 10 claims in a game where there is not enough land to go around, and it can't be taken away by pvp.

I dont claim to have been everywhere in the world, but Ive been around. and Ive not seen one instance where one player has 10. And if they did it would be quite easy to take it via the game means given some time.

I simply think there are too many people in the overall game for the land area available. even with people packed into 1 claim each. So instead of taking away claims that many are calling for (I know you arent, but you seem to take that personal, but many people are) or stripping land from people (which a forced reduction in claims would do). The devs need to implement a single player version for the solo players out there (win for them)  add a new server if the swollen numbers keep going (win for the people new to the game that want to go get land and leaves us in peace)

1 minute ago, JackTheWack said:

well start moving to a less growded place then not like the ice fields have players but oh wait even those places are mostly claimed with only 8 players avg per server .... 

So much WOW with this one.  "I want your land so YOU should move away"  Or I could maintain a place that isnt overcrowded and many people support it.

Only 8 players huh? well since 8 players couldnt control or sleep on all the claims out there it wouldnt be very hard to take some of that unused land from them. just takes a little legwork and patience

13 minutes ago, Winter Thorne said:

As far as "punishment", you've said you wouldn't lose anything at all if it became one claim per player, as for the rest, people have lost all kinds of hard-earned stuff due to bugs and griefing and game patches.  Why should people who grabbed up a bunch of land be exempt?  It's EA..we're not even sure there won't be a wipe.

There it is.  "if i cant have it you shouldnt be able to either." huh? 

14 minutes ago, Winter Thorne said:

and not to mean that some special few would get to be dictators over all the other players because they couldn't have their own land.

Who is dictating??  12-15 companies on my grid most of which are working together. No dictators here. thats not a special few either. here you are again throwing spears at people who are simply playing the game as it was designed

18 minutes ago, Winter Thorne said:

The claiming goals on pve ought to be making land available to as many people as possible

Exactly what we are doing in our territory. making it good for as many people as possible without overcrowding. which is what there will be if the claim system is removed/ harshly limited.

55 minutes ago, Sketch said:

land claims and rental system make no sense when players arent your enemy and it creates the problem of forcing peeps to go claim land in pve as if they were pvping. pve should have a seperate system for the 2 modes, claiming works in pvp minus issuses, but it has no place in pve.

See? people advocating for removal of claims, even tho it would make things worse. Thanks Sketch for backing up my point. And sketch go look at lawless zones. Your plan will make the whole game world look like that.

Everything you mentioned can already be done without the need for some complex system in game. just work with people to get it done. Land will come available, there will be a draw down in players as every game swells in the beginning. You seem to just want everything right now.

I would say that I am discussing this sensibly.  Every person advocating for removal, harsh limiting or wipes is advocating for a world that is worse.  10,000 towns of one would not be a good thing in this world due to resources that wouldn't be there if you jammed people into these sometimes tiny islands.  The MAJOR majority of people that have come have been solos that want to build a home, a taming pen and a shipyard, maybe a farm.  So imagine if you can if all 100 people that came to our island were allowed to do just that via making it to where each person and company had ONE claim. 100 shipyards and bases stuffed into every conceivable corner. no resources anywhere because people could and would come in and build anywhere they could. I would say my argument on this is pretty sensible.

The town that I am privileged to lead is not mine, it belongs to the 20 something and growing people who have persevered through many trials. i lead it because I bridge gaps and work WITH people to make it a reality. NO ONE works FOR me.  Land is finite. There is simply not enough  of it to have every solo build their own town. Solo players should have access to some form of single player.  But every person can have a part of their own town if they would just get over their antisocialness.

In order for claims to be made available to every new player for years to come in a world with finite land the devs would have to strip land from players who aquired it through the games normal means.(or they admit that the server isnt big enough for the player base and open a new one) If you owned this land that they stripped from you would that not seem like a punishment?

And the rental thing I was speaking of this section of the description that has been there since day one:

Form a company, claim territory and apply taxation and behavior rules to that which you own: be a benevolent governor, a feudal lord, or a ruthless dictator. 

If thats not explaining a land ownership system with rental in mind I dont know what is. And you cant be a ruthless dictator with a system that forces fairness.

which I thought they were gonna remove sea claims. we almost lost our main claim to sea claims overlapping. game can do without them. but yeah everything is a red circle when you go through a place you don't have territory. But its not 10 companies that own everything.

I'm glad my little simile of land taking amused you.   The reaction you had to it is exactly the same I had to people expecting to just have land waiting for them at the first island they sailed to weeks into the game. So my point was well stated and did its job.

We fully understand the claim bugs. we dealt with it every day until it got fixed. We fought for the land we claimed. we lost some to those bugs and issues.

The game worked on day one. I'm sympathetic to those that had issues, but many threw a fit because the game was delayed and many said they were delaying buying. i have a feeling that thats the majority of people crying now. So in a sense they made their own bed.  My nothing special computer and nothing special internet got me in, everyone I play with got in without much issue. Yes freeport was lag and rubberband fest but we persevered through it anyway.  So, I don't see why anyone else had issues that wasn't due to something on their end.  Why should I be punished for that? I even gave up a decent amount of land to people who were decent enough to come negotiate. usually gave it away for nothing.

Renting and claim ownership was planned in the game from before launch. it was in the description. Now you hate on us because we are playing the game it was meant to be played. You cant be a tyrant as the description says if the game forced you to be fair. That's what makes fair land owners like me stand out.  Again, it was in the description from before launch so to expect anything otherwise is unrealistic.

My posts are not "screw you i got mine".  people are advocating for the removal of claims altogether (which would be very bad for everyone)  or limiting claims to 1 per person (which only hands even more power to the larger groups) and I'm simply sharing my views on it as well. I'm sorry people cant handle that and feel the need to attack me, claim i don't understand, call me selfish etc.  Selfish?  I run a town that is set to personal structure ownership preserving rich resource land for not only the use of the people in my company but my neighbors and allies, with an almost open invite to people that wanted to join our little community which asks nothing from them except they follow a few rules of decency. But sure I'm selfish.

And yes, maybe the literal hundreds of people like you that have shown up on our shores demanding that I demolish flags, being outright vulgar and insulting without even a hint of diplomacy have jaded me to your cause a bit.

6 minutes ago, JackTheWack said:

take it then go take your 25 flags already i dont care if you gonna do it or not but it would fix this game that has companies of 3-5  having over 20 flags on covering whole islands . 

An exaggeration. Ive been to over 50 islands and I have not seen this. It certainly isn't like this on any of the grids near me.  You try to make it sound like its the norm but it isnt. there are for sure a few areas like this, but its an exception not the rule.  And 3-5 people covering 20 flags is not sustainable. either they grow into it or it will get taken as they will tire of it eventually.

Issue this game has is overcrowding. Ive had over 100 people come to my land and attempt to steal or negotiate for land. If all of them succeeded and there was one flag for every company as you are advocating for, islands would be cluttered with bases and shipyards and look just like lawless does now.  the solution is singleplayer or new server, not overhaul of a fundamental mechanic of the game.

2 minutes ago, JackTheWack said:

and the building on other peoples land on PVE , i dont even want to get started on how bad it is you cna get kicked out of it any time of the day losing all your progress cause the land owner felt like it or needed some materials.... 

Then that is your choice.  We have renters and because we manage the resources we control theres no reason for us to take their stuff. Vet the people you rent from and only do business with people that are reasonable. Or join a company like us and have access to prime land without taxes. 

/facepalm. Im not the one crying here.

See my other posts about this. My company is completely ready for this. limit us to 1 flag per member and we will claim 25 flags and take more territory. You request to make things worse for yourself and then call me brain dead.

1 minute ago, TiiaAurora said:

Same if you limit to 1-2 flags. stuff would be cluttered. not everyone would be able to have a shipyard. no ressource spawns anymore etc. 

OMG!  Sooo refreshing to hear someone else that actually understands this!

11 minutes ago, JackTheWack said:

you wanna tell me this BS of a claiming system works for PVE you need to have your head checked.. 

Also even on pve removal of the claim system would make every island look like lawless and you see how nice those areas are...

6 minutes ago, TiiaAurora said:

And there is me trying to rent land taxfree and noone wants it because crocodiles spawn on the island 

Yeah those crocs are terrible. just tiring having to deal with them all day. we have wolves ALL THE TIME.  Animal spawns need tweaking.

We are renting out land  at 20% tax rate but I dont really see how the tax affects renters, outside of the normal harvesting tax that anyone has while in our territory.

Problem is everyone want to be solo and not rent etc, when its a major foundation of this game. Rule your lands etc...

The idea behind it is fine, really. In your case (and a few of our claims) the system did not work properly as designed.  But,  its EA. We actually expect this stuff to happen. We expectto lose claims, ships and the like.

Im well aware this is not PvP, but this type of game cannot be completely PvP free, unless you play singleplayer on your own server.

But by all means resort to attempting to insult me. Proves you dont really have an argument.