Dez_beard

16 minutes ago, Bisbois said:

There are points at which I do agree with you on, though what I feel would really benefit us is proposing solutions to what we see as problems.

It does seem weird someone can try to steal your land and you are unable to kill them, but having that be a mechanic would inflame an entire new set of players. What we do is fast travel to that location and cancel their land claim; then fast travel back. They tend to give up most of the time.

When we log out we just log in our most important claims somewhere that animals can not aggro us and kill us; I have seen wolves aggro sleeping bodies through windows or single story houses so we build 2-3 story tall towers and log there. I have also seen animals jump onto ships and kill sleeping people.

 

Once the 3 days inactive required to claim land thing works consistently, though, holding land will be much easier for smaller companies and even solo players, and I am interested to see how that works in the coming days so we are all able to continue to provide the devs with constructive feedback and ideas.

A lot of the community is voicing what they don't like or agree with but not proposing a better solution. I personally really like the land claiming system but think that there should be some upkeep required, and that the game should be more visual about someone stealing your claim(s) other than giving you coordinates that show up on your screen for less than two seconds for you to play marco polo with. The coordinates should go in your company log and the claim should be colored differently on your map when someone is contesting or trying to claim it.

Sounds here and there good but im just coming into this with an Ark experience im not sure if you played Pve on there but the biggest downfall was claiming land with pillars over unreasonable chunks of the map. Come here see the flag circle good idea now realize you can place multiple and the flags start filling like the pillars on ark. Also by hogging land you could benefit and or injure the game. Now your talking about forcing people to join or good luck. On a pve server the last thing you expect is a fellow player taking land and things. 

And also with the pve contesting if this will remain a thing for when times up atleast they should give the option to fight back, yes it might be a bigger company your taking on with odds completely against you but at this point isnt the odds already against you?

Like you I like hearing the community very good ideas.

4 minutes ago, Bisbois said:

Most of us claim land around resource areas so that the resources will continue to spawn there. If we didn't, someone would come along and build there and stop all our resources from spawning. I have yet to struggle with being unable to find anywhere to build on an island or having land I wanted get taken from me.

I'm happy to provide advice if you want; but deep down I think people complaining about this largely don't understand the game.

You are fully able to play this game as a solo player; but everything is much easier with even a small company, and your frustrations could be completely avoided, which is why I suggested it. I have claimed and held land alone as well.

Could the current system be improved? Sure, and I'm certain it will be. Is it currently broken? No.

 

If you want to play this game as a solo player: Take a single claim and log there somewhere where animals can not kill you and NOT on your ship. No one will ever be able to take it.

Most players log in the open, or in single story thatch houses, or on their ships right offshore. They die and their land is up for grabs.

Once the 3-days inactive to contest thing actually works consistently it will be a lot easier for you to hold land as well and your problem is solved by that.

 

Give it a week or two (or even just 3 days) and the player base will die off a bit and you will have a lot easier time claiming some land. If you don't have the heart to lose everything you have to some bugs, and are that set on not joining a company, then I suggest you wait and maybe pick this game up again later.

Good luck.

Seems like we have conflicting ideas on how Pve should be played. I read your post respectively but still the thing still stands. This should not be a thing for a pve server. Player verse environment Not Pvp Player vs Player. Stealing land claims while you log off for a few hours to work sleep or what ever is ridiculous. I have a decent amount of hours into the game and not once did I even think stealing Pve land should be allowed or fair. Because once you start taking claims doesnt that and shouldn't that activate a pvp war or something? 

My mate and I literally had to stop what we where doing because we seen a contest alert go up. Needless to say we spent an 2 hours sitting doing nothing.  But I guess big tribes have a greed mindset and as a Ark player server will die yes but to a number thats low its barely active.

19 hours ago, GWSheridan said:

2 flags per tribe unlock lvl 30/40 for couple more for PVE server. Even saying that PVE server should not really need the flags there pointless 

Flags are indeed a step forward. When I say this im coming from a mindset of Ark pve. In Ark basically find land build and pillar everything. Heck on ark Atlas island size is a joke tribes would of had a location this size pillared off for no builds. Atleast the flags gave a green circle and within there thats your build space. The problem is multiple flags and stealing claims.

9 minutes ago, Bisbois said:

Finding and claiming land requires some dedication and running around with a claim flag out. Most land will be contested or not able to be claimed yet. However, my company has been able to take at least a few claims or work our way in on almost any island we choose. We have also given up land on entire islands that were owned only by us, as we no longer use them and wanted other people to be able to build there. It's not as hard as people are making it out to be. If you are struggling that much to find land then join a company. Check out the list of companies at https://www.playatlas.com/index.php?/clubs/&f6[0]=0, ask in Chat if anyone is recruiting or use your mic in game to talk to people. There are also many companies recruiting on the official Atlas discord. There are at least several on almost every island that would be happy to have another player. This game was not meant to be played alone. It is far more fun when played cooperatively. Give it a try and talk to some companies and join the one that you feel would fit you best - you will enjoy the game a lot more and experience far less frustration.

If I do recall there was a quote from a dev saying something along the lines that you could be a sole person playing pve hence the recruitment of NPCs for crew mates. Also answer me this if this contesting was actual planed for Pve wouldn't you think they would have a counter to said contest besides waiting at said land until someone gives up and leave, such as a pvp approach to it. Meaning your contesting my land let me grab a weapon to protect it. No its large companies and griefs taking advantage of a bug in the game.

And honestly Pve is meant for a laid back enjoyment approach to the game not a command and conquer thats approach is for pvp. And if companies of said size goto pvp or arent they really that good? A large tribe on a pve server claiming stealing land is a retarded approach.

They should do it like ark 14 days to decay

The whole contesting thing needs to go. Make it like ark with a decay timer. Honestly if players are about stealing land then goto pvp thats what thats is for after all. I mean honestly you cant even fight back to protect your land, once contested you ether sit there for god knows how long or just give up and lose everything. And if fighting for your land goes into effect then offline raids need to be implemented. 

I wouldn't mind playing Atlas but lets be reasonable. Land can be stolen, Boats can be over weighted sunk by others. Which is all griefing by the way. And pvp at this point is a losing battle everyone's all or pretty much built up you'll be cannon fodder.

territorial gains in Pve shouldn't even exist. By stealing. That stuff is what Pvp is all about. Once someone in Pve contested your land you cant even fight for it, Basically sit there and start up youtube or netflix to wait them out. 

45 minutes ago, Staceh said:

What they've done is realistic, and appears to be functional - now, granted they did not expect the amount of players they got (next time, phone me guys, I could have called that one for you....)

They currently have 150 players per grid (server), that's reasonable, the area I play in usually sits around 60 players online at any given time.

what grid is this i haven't seen any above 100 just checked

Agreed and hopefully know one uses the early access free pass. All this stuff is game breaking and nothing new all they need to do is read the forums and they'll see 50+ threads of the same things although the weight on boats is new ill admit. 

Nope lets add the ghosts ships and  praise the the big dog company's that exploit a bug and claim all land in a pve. Get these company's out of here if they want to do that get them on pvp. I was lover of ark and respected wildcard or 'Grapeshot' its a complete joke. Countless hours wasted what a joke. Although im trying to have faith in the devs.

i would like this idea

1 minute ago, Staceh said:

Yep, its a week old. look at the patches that have come out.

Its also early access, we all signed up to bugs and frustration.

Yes bugs but a topic thats been constantly brought up. I was getting fed up with the constant wildlife but i was using early access as a pass. But hours spent and wasted ships gone land stolen Its officially unplayable unless you like ports or lawless.

23 minutes ago, Faerdraug said:

Well, that's maybe the case here, i don't know, but anyway how could we have known?

That's a PORT, and if you can't park ships in a port, well, what's the use of it?

Good measure for pvp but worthless for Pve

my question exactly 

2 hours ago, Loni said:

If stuff like this happens then there is literally no reason to play now.

100% agree cant build a land base someone will steal it. Apparently the ghost ships dont attack anchor ships anymore but what good is that if they already blew your ship apart before recent patch. So what build a new ship where lawless with faster decay speed. But the devs our on top of it. Thats a joke and a half.

I want to know how theyll reimburse the players that lost huge to there actions. As far as roll backs or server wipes go.

6 hours ago, Evendar said:

correct me if i'm wrong but in the governance tab of company you can actually say who owns what, so I believe as long as it's "personal owned" set it shouldn't be an issue.

take it from an ark player where theres a will theres a way. Gov system sucks all a tribemate had to do was enrage our giga and it killed everything. Thats ark atlas has its own ways of screwing up the gov system.

6 minutes ago, Peacemkr7900 said:

Literally days of work gone down the drain. a mostly built brigantine, my Large shipyard, my stone house. EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!! GONE!!!!!!!!!!!! IN PVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! because of your broke claim system. as a PVE  player you cant even log out to sleep now without someone coming along and placing a flag at your stuff and waiting a bit to own everything you have. This needs to be fixed, PVE is where people are supposed to go and enjoy the game without harassment or theft from other players. No one will ever be able to make progress in this game as long as someone can come along in 30 minutes while you away or asleep and steal everything you worked hard for. 

Me and my mate had completely the same thing happen but on top of this a ghost ship blew our schooner and raft while docked at our base port.

wipe server screw a roll back tired of stolen land on a pve server and ghost ships killing anchored ships

my thing is this is pve why is this even a topic. We should be throwing concerns to other things but claiming land is obviously the problem and they do nothing about it.

And why even add contesting to a pve game without the ability to protect it. In ark theres a timer until decay why isnt that here.

And these land grabbing campaniles need to goto pvp to test there true metal then easy mode.

thought of something interesting. Maybe they could add a block or 2 for pvp option but the main map remaining obliviously pve

3 minutes ago, Caduryn said:

PvE…..

lol i thought so but the land contesting really defeats the purpose.

See thats what im talking about when I say its B.S alls you do is nothing but wait out the other one to a big crew maybe do able but to a sole person or little crew its not even worth it. And just speaking with my crewmate even if they do patch and fix the damage to many players is done because land is already lost.

Being a hardcore Ark player dealing with problems with pillars on Pve I got on Atlas and thought wow they learnt from ark. My thought place a flag and the green circle is yours to build ect. But reality place a flag to have it stolen then sail around with islands completely red out.

On 12/26/2018 at 7:39 AM, Tiberius_theron said:

Claims need to be limited to 1 per character, with a maintenance cost. In addition after so many hours if the clay. Isn't built on, it should expire. We've spent 14 hours now sailing, and found no claimable islands.

players are claiming everything they come across, and it's then never used. 

 

I would also recommend adding another PvP and PvE server cluster to each region worldwide. No need to pack in so many players.

I was building on my land just to have it stolen. Honestly there no point for a land base it just will get stolen

2 minutes ago, BoOoM said:

feels like this is the first game where its possible to claim land. 
 

Can you kill said person if trying to Claim your land?

10 minutes ago, soft paws kitsune said:

wow your second schooner... wtf yha its all chinese players griefing also that ive seen, i wouldnt mind joining your crew it sucks so bad right now to restart without anything...
 

hey its my mate

In my opinion and only my opinion this game or at least Pve is going to be dieing off. The Devs really need to look at these forums.

1. Land Claims and contesting why is this an option in Pve. If contested can you protect by killing said player contesting it?

2. Over abundance of Animals trying to rip you apart. Yes build weapons but whens enough enough. 90% resources gathered for weapon repairs 10% is collecting for ship/base builds o wait base builds? Land just will get stolen.

3. Ive been on my raft since this last patch ghost ships still flood the waters. Raft you say? Yeah my schooner was destroyed while Anchored at my Base port that was stolen by the way.

With me and my mates hours combined probably around 100 hours sadly theres nothing but my man running around in his draws to show for it.