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Hello Pathfinders, and hopefully grape shot games, please read the entirety of my forum thanks! I think a rework of the PVP system would be really nice and bring a lot of new players in the trailer the PVP system seems a lot more polished and nice [MELEE COMBAT] a lot of the buttons should be rebind able first of all pressing CTRL and RMB or LMB is abit annoying id rather rebind it to ALT + RMB or LMB this would improve Melee combat a lot some other suggestions are to add directional attacks and to give the sword its own hit box rather than your cross hair having to be on the opponent this would add a sort of skill aspect to melee combat and since we have attacks and we have blocks there needs to be some kind of way to get around the blocks perhaps a Feint system sort of like a fake attack or something similar to this would need to be added, if this was done this would hugely improve melee combat make it a lot more interesting have a higher skill ceiling and be a lot more enjoyable perhaps even removing the lock on mode could happen as with this kind of PVP with sword hitboxes rather than cross-hair it would make the lock on almost unnecessary. [FIREARM COMBAT] this isn't really as much as an issue as melee combat but maybe removing the cross-hair and making gun sights more prevalent would be a nice change to the game I also think that guns should do more damage guns require a lot of points especially for the carbine and for it to do like a measly 70 damage sometimes even less with guns or so after missing is ridiculous especially considering the reload time I think the damage should be heavily buffed I don't think it should be a one shot or anything similar to that but I feel it should definetly reward good aim and at least put the opponent on a low health with good armour [ARMOUR] better armour should negate speed by a critical amount by rewarding with health more health slower player this balances very op armour while still making them viable don't want to get one shot with a gun better armour but don't want to be slow Mid tier armour want to be fast no armour the speed shouldn't be incredibly different but I feel mid tier armour should reduce base speed by about 20% and high tier armours reducing it by about 30-35% [NPC REWORK] the current NPC'S have a ridiculous amount of Health its about like 6 shots with even good guns to kill them this is ridiculous as if you mount an NPC on a swivel it makes it almost impossible to kill them this in term makes Melee PVP not viable as you do not get rewarded for boarding ships. On tamed creatures the cannon carts should be mountable by NPC's and only by players I believe the this is abit too op and is basically the Quetzal auto turret from Ark its unbalanced and almost unplayable against [SHIP/OCEAN PVP] I believe you have done a splendid job with ship PVP some of the best I've ever seen but I believe a little tweaking couldn't do no harm I think the structure on ships should be regulated a little bit more I think ship structures should be reduced this shouldn't effect deployables like Boxes , Storage's , Cannons , or other types of deployables only building items [In conclusion] I believe this sort of Melee rework could make the game an B Tier Melee combat and an A tier shooter gamer maybe even approaching the A tier slasher for examples of this type of PVP please take a look at Chivalry Medievel Warfare or the game Mordhau maybe even Last Oasis take some notes and do a more basic version of that I love ATLAS and am a long term ARK player with thousands of hours combined between the two games but in the games current state its just ARK on water the only problem is this game does not suit an ARK type of play style I have no other complaints with the game and think the game is actually really good and just needs some little improvements here and there and I believe the ATLAS team is doing the first steps of this by introducing a new Lead Designer and new community management as well as what seems to be monthly updates, good job Atlas so far keep on adding New weapons armours and other content. Thank you, everyone for reading my forum and listening to my opinion please share this with your Atlas friends and help this post reach the top of the Forums and help this get to the development team, and lets make some game breaking PVP improvements and please I implore you to write other PVP improvements the development team could consider please add your suggestions to my forum and link other forums that discuss good PVP improvements in the replies [ YOU CAN FIND AND MESSAGE ME ON MY DISCORD HERE CyroForel#0602 ]
The hydra pistol doesnt have enough damage output for the skill points invested. Total damage for 6 shots is around the damage of 2 flintlock, but takes the same time to fire as 6 flintlocks. Maybe it saves a few hot bar slots, but not worth it. I understand lower damage for balance, however something like 50-75% damage per shot makes more sense. Regular flintlocks are in a good spot, 1 or 2 to down a lot of wild predators (like players) and some things like elephants are resistant.
A little backstory on me: I came to this game looking for a pirate/sea fantasy style game. I had never been a fan of Ark, or any survival games... but the genre has grown on me since trying Atlas. I was/am a fan of Summit1g, and love his videos from Sea of Thieves. I came into this game expecting a Sea of Thieves style game, but with building, and more MMO elements. Most of my time in this game has been on board Brigantines and Schooners, doing ship PvP, raiding, and naval combat. I consider myself quite experienced in PvP, and I'm very proud of my company and their performance against every type of opponent. I've poured countless hours into the game. I can safely say I've dabbled in pretty much every element. Now, with that said, I'd like to lay some heavy criticism at your feet, in the most respectable way possible: #1 - Are we going for 'Realism'/Simulation, or fantasy? What do we weigh more, fun gameplay, or realistic experiences? -Carbine reload timers are 15 seconds, yet we have giant crabs... which, are seemingly impossible to kill with said carbines. The jury is still out, but it appears to require liquid flame, several people coordinating perfectly timed grenades, maybe an explosive barrell, some harpoons, and other tamed animals to maybe kill one. Hopefully the crab doesn't jump over the mountain and instantly heal back up though. And look, I'm fine with silly crab monsters --- but can you give Firearms the same treatment? Let us load that carbine in 3-4 seconds, maybe faster with talents, and actually hurt the giant mutant crab. If we're going to fun - that's great, let's address the unfun things and turn down the realism on them a bit. Vitamins, reload time, freezing to death, etc. If we're going for realism, that's also great - let's tone down the power of tames, especially the giant ones. #2 - Ships have a weight limit, a crew limit... but no listing / balance mechanic. You can have 15,000 kilos on your ship, with 12k KG loaded directly on the rear of your ship. Again, what are we going for here? Are we going for realism? If so, implement some system for listing. Are we going for fun and creativity? Lessen the restriction on crew and weight. I don't like having to tell company members they can't ride on my Brigantine because I don't have a crew slot open or room for the 100kg they're going to take up. #3 - Death, Beds, item scaling and Naked Players. I feel like the entire concept of death in this game needs a long look. Naked players are at the same time way too effective at controlling the meta game. Capturing islands, defending islands, riding tames, etc. Naked vs. common gear is a very marginal difference. Yet on the flip side, a player in full common plate, with a carbine or blunderbuss, melee weapon, vitamin buff, etc... is completely worthless against a player in Legendary or Mythical Gear, or riding a decent tame. We need a more linear scaling system. Paradoxically though, naked players can stall out even the most well geared raid force for HOURS by simply running, contesting, placing structures, etc. Beds need a limit on how many times they can be used in PvP. Perhaps a durability hit each time they are used for a PvP death.