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Changes in the server system and creation of zones "The changes would be to extinguish the two types of server we have today in the Atlas for a single type that bears both PVE and PVP (...)" The creation of Safe zone is not for those who dont want pvp, it is for small companies dont be rekt by large groups, even before build their first galeon or walls! The safe zone will enable for those small groups to progress (within the limits of resources that this zone offers of course), and have some fun when they wanna fight without lose you entire progress. I'm rethinking how the size and distribution of the zones should still be, i agree with you and @Tarvald who commented about it too!

Oh its a really good point, the only problem I see in flip is, the safe zone will be the smallest among all zones, will it have sufficient claim plots to supply the vast majority of companys who like to play safely?

Eu não conheço muito essa desenvolvedora e acreditei nas próprias frases deles sobre um novo jogo, uma nova ideia! Eu tmb não gosto desse sistema do Ark e Rust que você comentou, é muito frustrante e a longo prazo fica sem sentido e faz os jogadores perderem a vontade de querer progredir porque nada vale a pena. Espero que eles ouçam os jogadores, o sistema precisa mudar pois está impossível de jogar e ter uma progressão típica de um MMO. O jogo tem um potencial absurdamente alto em se tornar algo muito bom, a ideia base deles é boa, mas falta refino, foi isso que propus.| Aguardo o modo single player também e a liberação do dev kit. I agree with you, the first thing they must to do is put a "civilization skill tree" and pre definined claim plots!

Hey thanks dude, I hope so, It takes me a lot of work!

After playing Atlas for many hours, visiting the official forum many times and seeing several posts about the game's claim system, with critical suggestions and etc, I decided to do this mega post to talk about this mechanic and give my suggestions to make it better , more competitive and satisfying for all kinds of players. Unfortunately I am not fluent in English and I wrote all this in Portuguese and then with my knowledge and a help from Google Translator I translated into English, if any fluent in Portuguese and English want the original version that I wrote and make a better translation, I will be attaching the document in this post. I really believe the Atlas has an big potential to become one of the best experience MMO Sandbox, and that's why I felt like I wanted to cooperate as much as I could, so that the game would become better and better. The current game system is practically traumatizing and not compensatory for those who take the game seriously and think about having a long term progression, you build, build, equip up, build your boat and then, after you logoff and go sleep, none of it is there, all stolen or broken by someone or a small group. The current claim system has a very serious problem, there is no limit for people to put their flags, it's all a mess, play put their flags anywhere even knowing that they did not use that place at all, just to disrupt or mess the game. Having said all this, I came to this conclusion of writing and thinking about this whole new system for the game! Well let's get start: The creation of a skill tree for claim This skill tree is important because it would give progression in investing in the colonization project of your company and limits certain aspects in what is necessary for the competitiveness and progression of the game. Pre-set places to place flags I believe that the best way to stimulate competitiveness is to improve the end game and avoid the mess that is the current claim system, by placing pre-established places where you can place the flags and limiting through the Tree skill the number of flags that a player can place, will bring organization, more spaces for other players to be able to put their houses and small companies to build their small or great empire. * Proportionality and scale of area sizes may be incorrect Full size images: https://i.imgur.com/Nftdlya.png https://i.imgur.com/OFvwymi.png https://i.imgur.com/4dBGWJN.png The purple circle is the limit line influence of that company, after being conquered an invisible wall (pressing H in the game you will be able to see that limit line) is established in that line for non members of the company. Laws within this area of influence can be imposed by the leader of the company that conquered the plot, such as: free movement of any player (company member or not, tax collection for players who have personal claim in that area and others. In Red and Black zones these walls are undone when a company is suffering a Siege War attack (I will explain in more detail below). Personal Claim A small space (5x5?) Solo Players Can Build Your Home Within this house it is possible to place a limited number of workbenchs (due to space), hire an NPC, manage who can enter it and make use of their equipment, chests and etc. Limited number according to player's Skill Tree In pre-established areas in the Freeport Islands In pre-established places on most of the islands in the "Blue Safe Zones" (I'll explain later) "Plots that are at the edge of the island allow the player to build a Tiny Shipyard" Within the area of influence of a company. "Companys who are in Blue Safe Zones may assign these plots to non-members through payment of an amount of gold, appeal or what the company leader wants in return. In addition to the collection of taxes." Full size images https://i.imgur.com/GLnM15d.png https://i.imgur.com/HJsFmLQ.png Company Claim A large area In pre-established places in all areas (Blue, Red and Black) Limited number according to the player's Skill Tree. A base upgrade system (Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3, Tier 4 and Tier 5) (A system that I am still having some ideas but still not defined at all) System of maintenance of the bases (Payment of taxes and feeding) "A system in which the companys must pay the fees and manage the stock of food of the base to maintain the area of influence and plot" "At Blue Safe zone the fee is paid every 3 days IRL and the food stock is falling over time, if the fee is not paid or the stock of food ends up the company loses its base and plot." "In the Red Zone PVP the rate is paid every 3 days IRL and the food stock is falling over time if the fee is not paid or the stock of food ends up the company loses its base and the plot." "For the companys that are in the Black PVP Zone, the rate is regulated according to the interest of who dominates the territory. (who won Territory War)" System of laws in the area of influence of that company "The company leader can define some laws for the area of influence of his company, some examples: free trade between any player, prohibited to kill players (Red PVP Zone), prohibited to rob (Red PVP Zone), application of taxes for members and etc." Companys in the Red and Black zones can mark a siege for the base domination and area of influence of other companys (I will explain the Siege system further forward) Companys in the Black zone can participate in Territory War, and so dictate the rules and obtain the profit of the fee payment of that territory. (I'll explain the War Territory system further along) Full size images https://i.imgur.com/ujx9jEU.png https://i.imgur.com/kfvRHgp.png https://i.imgur.com/DfUyTTg.png Changes in the server system and creation of zones The changes would be to extinguish the two types of server we have today in the Atlas for a single type that bears both PVE and PVP, creating zones in the global map that would have its own characteristics and mechanics of operation both economic, conquest and combat. It is also a way to facilitate and simplify the balancing of Skill Tree, thus: Blue Safe Zone Simpler resources and less quantity among all areas Low amount of treasures and World Boss (Ghost Ships and others) between all the zones Higher amount of Freeports compared to Red PVP Zone No fighting between players anywhere in the Blue Safe Zone It is not possible to destroy/steal boats and houses of other players, loot belongings anywhere within the Blue Safe Zone Without Siege war for the domination of the base of another company (I will explain more ahead) Without Territory war (I'll explain later) Islands with the highest number of plots for Company Flags among all zones Players can respawn on their boat beds at any time "The safes zones exist perfectly for those solo players or small groups to develop in the game without suffering retaliation from larger groups or troublemakers. The large amount of plots for Company Flags added to Siege's inability makes it easier for these players to build their own destiny. The sense of security prevails anywhere in this zone " Red PVP Zone More advanced resoucers and more than Blue Safe Zones More quantity and quality of treasures and quantity of World Boss (Ghost Ships and others) compared to Blue Safe Zones Some islands in some territories that do not have plots of claim, but that have many resources for collection. Less amount of Freeports compared to Blue Safe Zone Combat between players allowed (except in the islands where Freeport has) Allowed to destroy / steal boats and houses of other players and loot belongings (except in the islands where Freeport has) Siege War for the domination of the base and conquest of the area of influence of another company (I will explain more ahead) Without Territory War (I'll explain more ahead) Islands with the least plots for Company Flags compared to Blue Safe Zones Players can respawn in beds of their boats with a cooldown time (increasing exponentially according to the amount of deaths then) "Red PVP Zones are for the larger, organized groups that know of the possibility of losing everything in a Siege but want to have a facility to get large amounts of resources, are also for those more adventurous players who are in search of better treasures and who knows how to steal some boat around! For those who are not members of a company that has a base on some island in that area, the sense of security in not having everything stolen or killed by a pirate only exists in Freeports " Black PVP Zone The best resources are here and in greater quantity than all other zones The most valuable treasures and the most fearsome monsters (Dragon, Hydra, Kraken?) Must be in these areas. Great monsters can randomly attack the base of a company, in case the company can not defeat the monster, it will destroy it. Two territories focused only on the collection of resources, the islands that have the greatest amount of resources of the whole game. There is no Freeport in this area Combat between players and allowed theft without any punishment. (A criminal system for the game?) Siege War for the domination of the base of another company (I will explain more ahead) Territory War for the domination of an entire territory (I'll explain later) Islands with the least amount of plots available between all zones Players can respawn on the bed of their boat with a longer cooldown time than the Red PVP Zones "Players can not respawn in the bed of their boat when that territory in which they died is in Territory War, only in the base of their company or in the nearer Freeport" "The Black PVP Zones are for the most hardcore and organized companies in the game, it's not a place for amateurs, the probability that you lose everything here is high, great risks big rewards is the dilemma of those who step on these lands and navigate these waters ." Siege War Siege was the only way I found that a group or company could conquer or destroy an established base and the area of influence of another group, fighting fairly and competitively for both sides. Can only occur in Red and Black Zone When a company first conquers a plot with its flag, it will choose 3 times in IRL that it can suffer an attack, the siege can happen on any day, but only at the times at which it chooses. For a company to attack another base through siege, the company leader should go to a Freeport in the Red PVP Zone and choose a day (the attack can not occur on the same day it is being organized) in which he wants attack and one of the times established by the leader of the other company that will defend At that time the invisible walls of the base being attacked will dismantle only to the members of the company and allies that marked the attack. A company wins a siege when it manages to destroy the wall or gate, invade the base and destroy the flag of the other company. A company can pay for gold to block sieges attacks for 3, 5 or 7 days, the leader must go to a Freeport in a Red PVP Zone and pay for the NPC. A company loses the siege when it can not destroy the flag in the time of 1h and 30 minutes. When the company leader marks the siege, he can request the help of up to 2 companys in the attack, consequently the company that is defending can also request up to 2 companys to help. Only members of the company participating in this siege can damage the walls, gates and the flag. Players from other companies that are not participating in the siege are still barred by the invisible wall of the base that is under attack. "Any player who dies a second time during the siege, can not enter that territory or respawn in a bed that is in the base or boat present in that territory. (This is to prevent the players from dying, they are going back to the war and the siege does not end)" After dying twice players can only respawn in Freeports. Full size images https://i.imgur.com/8GcuhuW.png https://i.imgur.com/YYxqKmO.png Territory War This is a system that I have not yet fully thought of, but I will leave here some ideas of what can be Black PVP Zone only It's a war on the high seas, much like a battle royale. "The war occurs in a region demarcated in the map of the territory, the company that manages to destroy the ship of all the others is the winner" "As soon as the event begins this demarcated area is closed with translucent walls and no one can enter or even leave to try to avoid fighting." There is no limit on how many ships a company can take to war, in this battle it is where they can show all the strength they have. Companys are not obliged to participate The event takes place during 1 hour and 30 minutes, if there are still ships of all the participating companies, it will be up to you to have more ships and crew (players) Occurs on a fixed day and time of the week Only those companies that have a base in that territory can participate in this war Players who die can not return to that territory until the event is over The winning company will have full influence in the laws of the territory and will obtain all 40% of the profit of the whole system of rate that owns in that territory paid by the companys. Conclusions Well, if you have read so far thank you very much, leave a comment with more suggestions, critics, we will talk about this subject and encourage the developers to change this system that is. I was already forgetting, developers put the option to edit the topic regardless of how long it takes @Jatheish NOVOS SISTEMAS PARA ATLAS.docx

Change all claim system, there is a lot of suggestions on the forum! The building system needs to be changed to, those builds like ark, Conan and rust are a fail system and ugly! Squares and no sense builds, we want epic constructions castles and everything else!

I made a topic about more benefits on the freeports, a system that can help solo players to make gold and improve the economic eco-system for freeports, look that:

Imo this can be solves just puting some "Public Foundation" on "Village Safe Zones". Those public Foundations you can construct Rafts and Schooners! "Oh why not public foundations at Freeports?" In Freeports you are limited to lv 8 and can construct only Rafts! Those safe zones is necessary to help solo/duo players and small groups to keep upgrading in the game. With those safe zone their life still hard cause in those islands there's company base, but helps a lot.

Yeah, they have to redesign all islands I really deslike it too I totally agree with it They have a really hard problem to the path btw! I hope they will see all those suggestion and it can help them in any way!

For the system works for pve servers the only issue i see is with "Open Siege" "Outlaw" and "Destroy personal flags" skills, these skills cant exist on thoses servers! ***

This system is like a feudalism works, many guild can claim your territory (maybe 2 or 4 if unlocked the skills on tree), the system resembles feudalism because it works that way: The fixed places is just for avoid a mess of a lot of players trying to put their flags anywhere, it have free spaces for sieges wars and increase the claim size of claimed territorys The only flag you can put anywhere is the personal flag! For the system works for pve servers the only issue i see is with "Open Siege" skills, these skill cant exist on thoses servers! The only to a company lose their territory flag or company flag is stoping to work on it!

I agree with you, the system needs to be change! I put some other ideas in this topic:

So, yeah only one personal flag maybe its the right way The NPC hire ideia is exactly for that! I really like that: Like i not a native english speaker im always drawing thing to try explain my ideia, so i drew an island and the places that can be claim, something like that i thought: Island might have 4-10 company places to be claim and one or more safe zones to players put their personal flags and dont be attacked. However if a player wanna be an adventurer he can put his personal flag anywhere, but certainly will be attacked Yeah all these thing i thought in a PVP server, some changes will necessary to PVE! Anyway, sorry for my english im really trying hard to explain that lol

@phaedread @psykikk

Yeah, another post by me Well, reading these two posts: https://www.playatlas.com/index.php?/forums/topic/8895-claim-mechanics-rebalancing-food-mechanic-mobs-make-it-fun/&tab=comments#comment-39228 https://www.playatlas.com/index.php?/forums/topic/8499-suggestion-claim-changes-murdercriminal-system-and-sieges/ I thought in a new tree, that could be called by: Civilization or Colonization Tree This new tree is based on a claim system that was sugested by @phaedread So, it looks like that: Let a comment about what do you think