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Yeah like I was saying before. I don’t think the low player count was just because of the wipe. I imagine this season bringing in even more all time lows. And for you pvp people, man Chinese are going to have a big head start.

So a Wednesday evening release huh? Pretty sure you couldn’t have came up with a worse time, like literally. Smh Very early Saturday pacific would have been a lot better because it would still be Saturday for the whole world pretty much. well I mean the Chinese will have a pretty good head start but to be honest I see this update as bring in all time low numbers again. the new map won’t actually be a new map but just a shuffled version of the others. and platform saddles? Yeah I get they actually have utility to them and usage but that is just lazy plain and simple. Couldn’t think of anything new so let’s just import some more ark content lol I bet they will look exactly the same as well or will you bother to even real in them? Lol guess the “tradewinds” thing is a form of fast travel so who knows that might be something, if it actually works. no surprise there is only two days left and still no extra info. Par for the course. actually just sitting here thinking I see why you are making it the 28th. You want to try to affect the low player count that you have right now and if you get an influx of people on the 28th it would make that number disappear. Well let’s hope you can’t get it out on time so that 1k will remain there forever lol

What worries me is only 2 days left and still no info. Pretty sure the “new map” will just be more rotated islands again. them importing platform saddles from ark is just pathetic and lazy. start time is awful for both pve and pvp. Chinese will have a big advantage.

Yeah still no info yet which is pretty typical of grapeshot and pathetic. The start time will make it to where the Chinese have a definite advantage in pvp. I see all time low numbers coming with this update. I mean 1000 is already horrible but it will get worse after the initial increase Yeah they really didn’t do anything. And you know the “new map” will just be more rotated islands right? Lol

I saw one of your tags said wipe or not. There isn’t any question to that. They already said the wipe is happening in their last announcements. There was never going to be a possibility of not having a wipe. Anytime the claims change a wipe is always required. Well at least one question got answered for you.

Well my point is the game is dead and it is a failure which all of that is true. I didn’t say I want pvp and pve to merge. What I said is that if it does then those are the only two ways to do it. I see pvp as boring as well. Waiting till someone is offline just really makes it no fun and also boring. Either way the game failed on many levels.

Come on man, pvp is empty as well. Pve people left because they got rid of the frost pve cluster to begin with. Pvp servers are just as dead. And nah, I have seen plenty of pvp people complaining. Deny it all you want but I have seen plenty of it. I will definitely be waiting for new world then. Haven’t heard of it yet but thanks for bringing it up. I’ll make sure to look it up today. Players are already leaving anyways so even if new world doesn’t take them something else is already.

Ah ok. Yeah we really need tames then for multiple reasons.

Careful man, a few of these guys want to get rid of tames in general. Seems like you like the tames right?

Totally agree, even the @Pant guy brought up a lot of stuff(thanks for that) that neither pvp nor pve wanted. Pvp and pve people spend so much time arguing with each other that we really forget who the real enemy is.... the devs. I mean they have shown a complete disregard for all of us that it isn’t funny, it really isn’t. This game will not go anywhere and it is unfortunate, but at some point another company will make an awesome game like this. This wasn’t the first pirate game and it sure won’t be the last lol. Let’s just let these guys fade away into the sunset and be patient for the next game.

Yeah because they shit the bed from the beginning. It is very easy to make it to where factions have safe and no safe zones but still allow for pvp. One east fix is flagging for pvp does not allow you to go into pve zones for a certain amount of time. keep coming up with why it wouldn’t work and I’ll not only let you know why it would work but I’ll also keep pointing out the 1100 people that play it. Actually since you said pve is dead let’s just start calling it 700? Is that a fair estimate? If not let me know and I’ll start using the number you throw out to me. Deal?

Sociopath? Really man? Smh yeah nobody wanted most of that stuff but as far as Xbox port? Yes pvp definitely wanted that. Numbers were already low and they most definitely wanted it. I remember Xbox players complaining it being crossplay and the pc players saying to deal with it and being excited about it, so bother bother with your BS on that one lol. just goes further with our first disagreement on how much of a failure this game is. They added tons of stuff nobody wanted, never communicated in any kind of professional manner. Kept wiping the game even when it wasn’t actually needed. Basically lied from the beginning, and broke something every single update they have ever made. Let alone missing update marks(don’t bother say other companies do too lmao). This game doesn’t even deserve the 314 spot you talked about you literally just gave multiple reason why. I am glad we agree on the dumpster fire at least.

Wow man, you gave me a direct and logical idea. Damn. I am not being sarcastic. Thank you for this. this not only makes sense but I would easily get on board with this. And yeah man, I have played plenty of COD, fortnite(don’t tell anyone), wow, and counter strike. I love pvp as well but there are some losers out there that love the fact they can raid you with you being offline. That never has been and never will be pvp and only makes you a coward to say the very least. thank you for your input. I would love the devs to see your idea but they not only stay away from the forums but they have some jaded delusion that they have the good ideas even though they only have 1100 people playing the game lol. Either way, good idea man. Thumbs up and salute to you.

Pretty much everything. Pve players haven’t asked for anything they have given us. Don’t even try to act like they cater to pve players lmao. Every change or content that has been added has been for pvp people. just because they are really bad at their job and suck at creating content doesn’t mean it wasn’t pvp focused lol

And shortly after the wipe it will go to 500. It’s been a constant drop which you are right, it does say a lot about the game. The rise won’t be as high and the drop will be a lot bigger. Let’s wait two months and see how low it is then.

Well just a quick note. With only 1100 players spread throughout multiple clusters and private servers this definitely cannot be considered and mmo because it is missing the first M. Wasn’t arguing, just wanted to point that out. but yeah I completely get what you are saying. Pvp players are very entitled. They think they should get what they want when they want it. The instant gratification group so to speak. Why work for it when you can steal it. There are some pretty similar real world implications to that. all I have to say is we did it there way and now we are at 1100 people and numbers will still definitely go down, so maybe it’s time to not listen to them and go in a different direction. Seems pretty logical to me. Who knows maybe logic goes over their and the devs heads. Really don’t know.

Lol that isn’t the case at all. Pve people definitely do not want to be on pvp and definitely would not go over there without these changes being made. Don’t worry man, I would never go over there if it was up to me, but I just hear a lot of whining on the pvp side that they want us forced to go over there. You know the real cry babies. guess you didn’t understand the part about making gold important and worth something? No pvp people wouldn’t be paying for resources with resources..... that would be trading. If you think gold is a resource that is on you because gold is a currency meant to buy resources. Unfortunately the devs have made it to where it is just a bunch of golden rocks weighing down a ship. hey I am fine with letting pvp servers be empty man. I have no problem with that at all. Count is already at 1100 and even with the minuscule increase after the wipe numbers will go down to below 1000 very fast. Pve people really don’t get bored, but if you are on the pvp side and can’t find people you will get bored really quick, because let’s be honest if you are just building a base and there is nobody to attack it you are really just playing pve yourself lmao.

Yeah I guess they are too dense to realize that simply adding factions would still be a sandbox. I think it comes down to them lacking the skill to pull it off rather then them not wanting to go in that direction. I truly believe lack of skill is the driving force in their decision making and it really shows.

There is over 37,000 reviews. Little too late to try to use the excuse of review bombing. If there were only a few hundred or even a couple thousand it would make an impact. With 37,000 that isn’t bombing, it’s the average opinion of a lot of people. Bombing only has an impact on a low review count. so you are going on something that the only thing is population as far as a games rating? Well even if we did that sorry to tell you but the population will keep going down anyways. Even when the wipe happens and some come back(always do) it will still only be a fraction of the people that were there before(always happens according to steam charts). So either way it’s going to continue to drop in rank over there as well. so really even being number 314 is bad enough, but the actual game ranking of 4.6 is very well deserved. It’s definitely a failure.

Nah, it’s number 71 on the bottom 100 list. I already posted the link. Really doesn’t matter what you say at this point. edit: it is called the hall of shame. It also says the bottom 100 worst games of all time on steam lmao.

This topic has been widely discussed with a variety of different ideas/opinions. Most of them I never agreed with because people would try to get excited about it or hype it up as being “wonderful” or some other ridiculous word. Either way the game is failing and has been. merging pve and pvp together could be good for the simple fact that gold could be worth something. Even mega companies has to waste personnel to grind out materials. Why not have the grinders(pve) players do that in the safety of their pve servers so that all pvp players can focus on pvp? Wow, what a concept. Pvp players can raid other pvp players to get “gold” so they can buy the good materials that the grinders(pve) make. Manufacturers(pve) and consumers(pvp). I know a lot of cry baby pvp people will whine and say they want to attack the pve people but suck it up, you don’t get to now and you won’t get to later lol. with this pve players wouldn’t have to worry about farming gold and pvp people wouldn’t have to waste time farming resources. They could just come up and with “gold” buy the 200% gally. You lose a ship in war? Go buy another one from the pve people. Pvp people don’t want to waste time taming or breeding? Also no problem, the pve people already did that and are willing to sell them. It’s beyond me how pvp people can be so arrogant lol. FACTIONS: this will definitely not solve the gold problem but will make for better pvp(sorry solo players) because it will eliminate the mega and solo players. You log in and make a character? You pick a faction regardless(doesn’t matter how many factions and that is not this discussion). You will pick a faction and that will always be your faction. The pvp battles would become very large scale and be a lot more entertaining than a fleet of gallys coming for a stone hut. Whatever faction comes out on top is the winner. I would apologize for being blunt but I am not sorry in any way, shape, of form. I have seen so many terrible ideas on this forum because people are trying to be “creative” or “fantasize”. This is the real world and we live in it. There is no creativity in this game. It’s a matter of players and success. Without either of these two this game will just stay a steaming pile and will continue to bleed players. That’s all there is to it. Try not to be creative in replies with creative ideas. Definitely not welcome. Rational replies with common sense would be helpful, because remember, pve people don’t want to play with pvp people so they will either leave or you give them incentive to do so.

Yeah man, I feel you. The “game” isn’t the problem. The dev company always has and always will be. The decisions they have made and all of the bad business practices as well as unethical behavior is just simply unacceptable. quick note though when you said “new claim system”. It’s really just a remake of the first claim system so in all reality it is just them coming full circle. the only point I will disagree with you on is the “bringing back the old map” part. I don’t blame you for thinking that way but these guys aren’t making any money(their own faults). They simply cannot afford to have that many servers. They didn’t make the map smaller to be “innovative” or “create more interaction”. They literally can’t afford that many servers anymore. once they cut off one full pve server(which led to a downfall in numbers) they saved 225 servers worth of money. Making the other 3 remaining clusters smaller I think they saved another 100-150(can’t remember the exact number) server costs. their decisions have led them to bleed money and resources and even if people think they are “loyal” customers, they really don’t care about that. I know some people want to feel special because they are loyal but I usually just pity those people. This is a business and money comes first. The unfortunate part is this isn’t a good company so money will not come in. don’t worry about what the OP says because they won’t just get rid of pve completely because if they did(they can’t be that stupid) the remaining 1100 people playing would easily drop to 500 or less. OP just wants more people to play with but that isn’t going to happen. He will slowly realize that the numbers will continue to go down regardless. Best example is the steam charts. People here try to hang on the words “numbers are low because a wipe is coming” which is so obvious I am embarrassed for them for even saying that. The main thing to look at is the drop in players before the wipe and then the increase after the wipe. Every time a wipe happens the increase gets smaller and also the drop off before the wipe gets bigger. this is a two year old game that wasn’t all that successful even in the beginning. After two years of the same thing people just get either bored or tired of it. They didn’t listen when factions were requested. They didn’t listen when pvp and pve could combine(some safe servers) that way a real economy could start. These guys just did a horrible job. I sure hope they are ashamed of themselves, because any other feeling would be unjust at this point. literally the only saving grace would be safe servers or factions(and you have to be part of one of the factions). But hey, if they want to stay in the bottom 100 as one of the worst games we can let them.

Well this is atlas so it all makes sense.

Getting rid of tames will not go well for you man. That would definitely make the game a lot worse. Breeding and selling tames is probably the biggest mechanic of the game so I would probably delete your first idea or even the devs will probably just stop reading after that.

Nah, the game will be removed soon. Bottom 100 of all games on steam. The whole game isn’t good so sorry to tell you but the pve people won’t be going over to pvp just because they get rid of pve. They will just leave an already failed game and then the game will become number 1 on the bottom 100 list lmao. so sure let’s do it. Get rid of pve. You can still go ahead and play by yourself lol