SusanT

" you'd think pve critics could read " pve> players can read and you writing it over and over and over again isn't going to make any of us agree with what you have to say, of course pvp players have a different style of playing than pve players I would think that common sense hence, don't know why you figure we can't read and understand ... " i'ts not just about attacking other players you say " when in fact that is exactly what pvp is about and destroying ships/bases/animals etc......I saw a guy playing a western pvp game, he moaned and groaned because he was constantly attacked, he threatened to turn the next person in for not allowing him time to prepare for a fight....is this what you are suggesting? I don't think pvp is like that but then again, I am no pro at that sort of game.

"the boat characteristics and its content get saved as data that is not rendered until you come back to the game." "Until you come back to the game"<< is precisely what you are not understanding, so, you think that a game company should make allowances just for deadbeat players=meaning the ones who hardly play for any and all reasons- and use the games data to save their stuff? That is what I mean by people abusing it also, if it weren't for decay wipes would be the way to go and I am positive that most would rather have decay timers than wipes.

Understood, I really do understand your reasoning but as you know people would abuse it and not come back until they are good and ready, in the meantime, their place is occupying the map which only has so much room to it. I would agree the timers need to be longer and maybe to include the vacation option but I don't see that happening since most would agree that decay is a good thing for the bigger part of the players.

LOL but the timers HAVE to be there, they just have to if they don't, folks in your position ( which I am sorry you can't log in and update ) would leave your bases there at your leisure and that just wouldn't be fair to other players since the map doesn't grow, it only becomes smaller hence, decay timers, if we didn't have them in games the servers would look and feel like a junkyard, sorry but I disagree with the decay issue you have. No offense.

I bought the game because it offered multiplayer as well as PVE because I like other people, well, mostly but what you say is good IF they would add that to the game but I have a feeling, it is only an assumption but a good one based on the fact that they are ignoring us that we will not see anything change in PVE except having to fight for a place on EU server and deal with the hackers there or, NO PVE AT ALL I went to the buy site, it doesn't state pve any longer, that tells me something. As a pve player I am perfectly happy with playing against whatever the environment gives, this was a wonderful game before they tried to fix it, don't fix what isn't broken is the old saying, I am still highly upset that they came like a thief in the night and just wiped out months and hours of what I had done with the excuse of " We don't take this lightly " well you do devs, you DO take it lightly because YOU aren't the one that spent all of that time on the game, that is the problem with a lot of the devs they lose the know how on how to be an actual gamer if they ever were to start with. My friends will no longer touch this game no matter because of the devs destroying what they had built, they have moved on, I still watch to see which way this shipwreck is going to turn.

Us PVE people were doing fine with fighting the pirates of the game itself which was what the game was intentionally made for when one speaks of pve, just because pve people don't like destroying or killing other players doesn't make us less valuable as a player we just have different ways of playing, I never did get what people got out of destroying what takes some hours and hours to build, I guess it is a destructive nature that us pve people don't dig and I am fine with that, do not belittle our game play all because we don't jump on the band wagon of wanting to join big companies and have absolutely nothing to do but to kill, kill and destroy other players, get real most know where their cahona's are and, the size and don't need to flaunt them by being part of a big company. Just saying. As far as it being hard to keep up? Really presumptuous of you to say that since you don't know all of us. I already know, you were part of a large group, you didn't get your full moneys worth whether you will admit it or not btw, I am not asking so YOU get with the times, there have always been pve players and pvp players and there always will be. Just saying.

If you are asking me of specifics? I have no idea as I do not play PVP I play PVE that being said, a faction on Atlas would make it so that you had to pick a side and you can't talk or trade with anyone on the other side. It would be ok for pvp I guess but would be dumb for pve and has no place in a pve game. For factions to make sense they'd have to create a lore reason to split everyone into two separate groups which makes no sense at all on a game based on being a pirate lolol. Maybe if they made it optional like you join one of two militias but, that you didn't have to.

But, but, they said they don't take it lightly...

They DO have factions...they are on PVP not PVE which is the way it should be.

Agreed it will be griefing on a daily bases and who as a pve player wants to deal with that? None, if we wanted that sort of action we would simply go to pvp, pve players are more tame in what we seek in a game that is why there IS pve and not just PVP, with the new changes coming on and from what I have read as far as pve players I smell sellout.

Why on earth would you want decay timers off? To me that makes no sense at all unless you are gone for long periods of time and if that is the case maybe solo is best for you just saying but, decay is there for a very good reason so the lag will not be as bad as it would with no decay and for others to have a chance at the places others have that aren't interested in playing the game anymore, there are a lot of those now though so I guess it doesn't matter anymore.

Then they should remove the PVE option off of their sales pitch if that is the way it is and myself and others of my friends will be highly wary of buying from either dev in the future due to this IF this is how it is going to be, just waiting for the ball to drop.

OMG you made me laugh! I really needed that too being bumbed about this and all thanks for that Your suggestion though sounds feasible IF the map were larger, as it is there will already be crowding issues, I do wonder though, are there more pvp players than pve players? Is there that much anger and wanting to kill and destroy ones stuff? If so wow. P.S this was to Gomez.

LOL I would too, I loved my base and this game is for all sorts of age and gender and people's personal situations like disabled that can't do the things their characters can do to Vets that like to chill on something like this game, hopefully you are wrong on there not being any pve and I certainly hope they change their minds and put pve on an NA server, that would be the only reason I go back like a whooped child.

Because I bought the the game for pve NA, NA, NA NOT EU. Too many trolls and overcrowding on EU servers not to mention the ping. PVP should go play on the EU let's see how quickly you change your tune...just saying.

I sure hope " No Mans Sky " devs will not do this, it really is a sneaky business to be doing to be honest I mean if you have a loyal following why would you go and muck it up? I just don't get it other than what Wildcard said the dlc's, sell outs...sadly I wonder if it will ruin most devs in the future due to this being noted as a pattern...

That is not what I bought, the game stated what it is no longer and to me that is a total rip off no matter that it came later and, no matter it is in early access, if it walks like a duck it most likely is a duck or in this case, rip off.

I wouldn't mind pve and pvp to be on the same map as long as it was separate and of course, a lot bigger than what they are proposing. I agree on the building aspects, I think more detailed crafting could really up the likes on this game I don't even think solo players would dislike that. I do not favor having to go to an EU server, had I known this option from the first I would not have bought it, period as I know what they are like and it has not changed and will only be worse for so many reasons moving pve there, that has already been stated that they are doing that, I don't think pve will get anything out of this except stepped on an assumption yes but, I would bet a good one, I so loved this game hopefully another dev will come out with one close to what they did have, I firmly believe in don't fix something that isn't broken just make it nicer.

I would like a straight up answer, this beating around the bush is maddening. When I bought this game it clearly gave the options of pve OR pvp and now you want to make it pvp? Where is that right? You close the only pve server that isn't EU, leaving EU as pve only options, if this had been the option to start with then I would have asked for a refund within the two hours that steam offers it. EU servers as EVERYONE knows is overcrowded, why do you think they come to NA servers? I feel that I am being cheated, the new team have come in, wiped all of the hours I have put into my place then tells me that it is EU or pvp.........No, I will no longer be suggesting to buy this game, it was a good game while it ran but I am still feeling cheated out of the money I paid for it, a hidden lie is what it is and that is what I will be telling people and trust me, I am not alone in this.

Your suggestion on vitamin deficiencies are out there, it is already hard enough to micromanage it as it is, I guess if you have a LARGE company that are doing the gathering and building and feeding and taming and raising the babes and gardening then sure as you have nothing to do anyway..... that would be fine but not for a solo player. I don't join large groups for a reason, I like to get my moneys worth out of a game and that means playing all aspects it has to offer, gathering, taming, mating, raising, etc. etc. why buy a game if you are just going to have others play it for you, seems a waste imo but to each their own.

I so totally agree with you, a lot of my friends have been saying the very same thing that you are saying, this game I bought for the PVE aspect as well as the sailing aspect I do not DO pvp so if the devs are going to baby the pvp'ers and ignore the pve'ers then I would like a refund please because I am one of the many that you just wiped without warning and told that I have now got to go to an EU server as there are no more NA servers, what is that? A lot of people, including myself, feel cheated devs and I am one that not only raves good about Atlas game but encourages others to buy it but now I am not so sure, this is just sad and mean. Love the idea of a new map but not an EU server. As a pve player I feel left out in the cold by you guys and, I am not alone.

Starved. They were a set of twins side by side and I thought maybe because I had them on neutral ( due to baddies spawning in the base ) that they had gotten out of range of food but I had troughs set up all over the base, they were within range.

I had four tigers, born within minutes of each other two were a set of twins, I brought them to juvie, had meat in their inventory ( jerky ) and had meat (jerky) in the trough and one of the twins died as well as one of the other tigers, is this an issue that has been reported yet and I just missed it? I have never had an animal starve and to make sure I always fill their bellies full of whatever it is they eat in case the trough has a bug and it was no different this time what got me is, the trough was still full and the twin still had 100's of jerky in it's stomach. There is no place to turn this in at as the three options they give don't match the problem it is not an ingame problem as it is already a done thing but this is really a ticky situation since I put hours into raising these tigers and it makes absolutely NO SENSE.

Oh yeah, there were more than a dozen who had the BE issues of dc'ing and not being able to connect at all ( this included the USA and the UK ), which really needs to be looked into, I know 7dtd has their own anti hacking program I believe it is called " easy anti cheat " don't quote me on that though been a while since I have played that but Conan also has their own anti hacking program so maybe the devs need to look into making their own, would save them a lot of time most likely, getting back to you talking of the grid being down or bad, I have gotten almost all of my animals out of L6 grid, N2 & L7 are in question as well but not sure on N2 & L7 as I avoided them like the plague but I am POSITIVE of L6 getting worse, I have not had any issues in M grid but it took an hour to get out of L6 when I did go get most of my animals, horrible. BE in it's frequently asked questions state that it may be the isp but when you have multiple players having the same issue it is not that at least to my knowing it's not, imo it is more of a sync problem that we ourselves can't fix. Always polite, always specific and the problem should be fixed. BTW, I have ran two servers myself before, single servers not multiple but, when I did I always had to restart them it clears up a mess and a half, with all of the servers Atlas has it needs to be a routine management sort of thing I think that too would solve a lot of problems and therefore a lot of tickets going in.

Thank you, yeah five days almost killed me as I love Atlas lol. I do agree, since it is an ongoing issue and has been for years and years there should be a step by step guide and maybe they will eventually work that in, we can always hope. I think your quote is directed at the devs, my point in the post and what the post is mainly about is that I never have issues getting help when I turn in a ticket because I am exact on my information I give, I posted this so others can see it and know what to do, if one turns in a ticket and is not specific how are the ones that fix the tickets supposed to fix it?<Rhetorical.