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Are Unofficial Servers no longer supported? With this update I noticed that the patch notes said nothing about unofficial servers. I just want to know what to tell my players who are still playing on our server if we're are done or what.

UPDATE: workaround is to never equip the Spyglass, if u remove spyglass from hotbar AND relog the "trade wind arrows" disappear and lag goes away.

I have been struggling with intense lag issues with the Trade Wind update. Ironically the problem has manifested both in the Grid editor AND in game. 1) Grid editor gets progressively laggy to the point of unusable as you add trade wind paths. This is probably some kind of coding problem I have no idea how to fix. You start to notice the lag after adding about 3 trade wind paths. 2) In game some trade wind paths have Visible Arrows and wind symbols in the sky ABOVE the trade wind path itself. These arrows cause MASSIVE lag I know they are hard to see in this image but if u look close u can see them. I have tried multiple settings changes and changed graphics settings from lowest to epic no difference. My fps drops from 60-80 to less than 10. It is only while "looking" at them so I know they are the problem but I cannot find any commonality on why they appear on some trade wind paths and not others. Also, it is anyone who sees them not just myself. If anyone has any suggestions I'm open. UPDATE: This is caused by the spyglass, to get rid of the lag u have to 1) remove spyglass from your hotbar AND relog or change grids. If you don't LOOK at the floating markers the lag is less so u could remove spyglass and either bed port out and in or sail.

As always backup everything FIRST.1) Make SURE to get the new servergrid editor, the Github HAS NOT been updated. You must use the link in the official post.https://s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/cdn.atlasdedicated.com/ServerGridEditor_04-26-21.zip2) Due to some odd crashes I had when attempting to export "everything" in the new servergrid editor, you may need to manually edit your ServerGrid.ServerOnly.jsonThere may be a new db entry called TradeDB, if you are using community maps that haven't been updated recently. If your server was already running at tradewinds update ignore this section.https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1774958469327523364/1EDABD36D5E69314C8FA8B0244D4603516624C96/?imw=256&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=falseYou can just duplicate one of the other entries and give it title TradeDB. That is what i did.3) Load your servergrid.json into the editor. if you don't care about adding tradewinds paths at this time then just load it save it, reload again, and then export cell images and world image map files separately.Make sure you don't have any checkboxes on tradewinds on the bottom as it may error out when attempting to export.3a) if you do want trade wind routes then you need to manually add them like u would ship paths. Press T to place, then drag the nodes around holding left click, Hold Right click on nodes to rotate.Make sure to edit EACH node and set the width to 50000 the default 1000 width is incredibly narrow less than a dinghy width and on my maps they didn't highlight on the water when set to 1000 width. (50000 is the width used in the included updated "map" with servergrid editor)https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1774958469327376818/DFF26E38E57B47588C83C5162237418464618204/?imw=256&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=falseStrength you can experiment with to determine what works, but when I used strength 4 it made the ramshackle sloop so fast that i sometimes rubberbanded.https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1774958469327375789/F03CDC4C17ABDEF386BF446E8406D896EB13E05C/?imw=256&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=falseSave ur servergrid after you add tradewinds routes.4) When exporting cell images and the world map make sure to ONLY export with these options as having the tradewinds options checked seems to cause editor to crash on exporting.https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1774958469327571022/253E808EC32EE0ADF01F63AE9019EE458934C76E/?imw=256&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=falseWhen you export the Tradewinds World map you can have Trade Wind Overlay checked but don't have show tradewinds or visualize tradewinds checkboxes it will auto generate, if you have them checked, it may crash the editor. Example auto-generated map belowhttps://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1774958469327590171/C7FC6D02C6720D10D253F46B34FE10C1BBFD3295/?imw=256&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=falseExample of UE4 errors i got due to the servergrid.serveronly.json not being correctly formattedhttps://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1774958469327598131/5EB98C729C099432246910336B38F66D9F5F2D9D/?imw=256&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=falseAlso gives similar error if you don't update the main servergrid.json file as changes are made to that file as well.https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1774958469327598909/C8A5BE758E5FE61538997117AE6A29DA16E0B5F0/?imw=256&&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=falsePlease feel free to comment or reach out if you have any problems and if you find other tips i'll update this guide.This is not meant as the definitive guide just my personal experience when updating to the new tradewinds patch and after some users reached out on the Phoenix discord i decided to make this quick guide to answer some questions. Link to my original steam guide https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2473516428

Atlas One server admin’s perspective on how to save Atlas. About me, I run a small hosting server for game servers. I mostly serve a small gaming community and a few streamers. Most of my experience on game server hosting started in 2015. However, I have over 25 years of sysadmin experience. Atlas is an ambitious idea. I say idea because at this point that is all it is. As it stands now the game continues to bleed players. Even with new content players are just not returning to the game. It is my opinion that this is primarily due to the complete lack of support for unofficial servers. One can’t discuss Atlas without mentioning ARK. Just in case you didn’t know, Atlas, Grapeshot, is made up of ARK Developers and Producers. The game itself has a lot of code ported from ARK as well. This should have made several aspects of the game just work. Many of the features of ARK that work very well have been broken in Atlas. Below are the things that I feel are done right and things that need changes. Done right: · Water system and weather. The water mechanics, waves, wind etc, all are wonderful. I can’t say enough good things about this part of the game. I truly enjoy and most players I know enjoy sailing. It is fun and you can really immerse in this part of the game. · Changed stats. The way stats have been changed generally are good. Much of the power creep that has occurred in ARK is negated with several stats not being changeable and others having much smaller changes. This is for both players, animals. · Building system. Hands down the building system is a 500% improvement. Every aspect to how building works in Atlas is by far one of the best of any of these types of games. I especially like the multi-part system where a wall can be many different things just by cycling when u place. Needs Work: · Animals. While some aspects to animals are ok, several other parts are not. Either you have a taming system, or you don’t. At this point you have, in my opinion, a dumb system. Same with breeding either make it work or don’t have it. It was stated that animals were not going to be a focus of this game. If that was the case, then why make all the changes that make it feel stupid. If animals are not the focus, then don’t give them a lot of utility. If they are needed then don’t change what has worked before, ARK, to some stupid system that doesn’t work well. If it isn’t broke don’t fix it. At this point you have gone too far to obviously revert to ARK systems, so you need spend some time and make it work. Major changes Needed: These next parts are more about how the current server systems work. Ini files. · Don’t make us guess what works or doesn’t work here. Have someone spend some time and Actually document the current ini file options for servers. · Fix difficulty scaling, whatever you did to totally bork this, undue it. Add or go back to how ARK difficulty scaling works. Right now, it’s totally borked up and is incredibly frustrating to players and admins. Either have NO difficulty scaling at all or have it work in a nice linear method JUST LIKE ARK. Why does it have to be this bad? o As it stands now, animals don’t gain XP if they are above a certain wild level. Difficulty scaling totally borks Alphas to be unkillable and able to kill everything. Why does having wild 150 animals mean we have level 1160+ Alphas that cannot be killed unless u glitch them or trap them somewhere. o The entire system needs a massive overhaul. In my opinion separate out wild animal levels scaling and alpha scaling. Also break out SOTD and AOTD treasure maps. Some high level AOTD are immune to all damage or only take a single point. o Some survivors from high level SOTD disappear after you “claim them”. Again, difficulty scaling problems. Ship stats · I understand that “official servers” need to maintain a balance. However, you should know by now that this game will be make or break on the unofficial servers. ALL ship stats need to be fully exposed in ini files. Servers need an easy way to adjust these. This is an absolute must; mods will never work well for this and it needs to be a priority change. Many players and servers play a more PVE style and creative style. Without more ability to easily make these changes you lose long term playability. The single biggest complaint I have from players on all the PVE and creative side is this issue. Along with borked animal taming but this one issue is huge. Ships are ATLAS, you have to do better here. o Changes needed, exposed stat settings like that exists for player/animal stats. o Ini control of ship base speeds, including backup speed. o Ini control of each sail type/size. o Ini control of each ship type, number of sail “points” i.e. how many points each ship has for sails, larger sails costing more points etc. o Ini control for expanding builds outside boundaries or expanding the boundary by X factor. This obviously can’t work in all servers but if I want to have a server where I can build crazy ships then, if this is a sandbox game there should be a setting too allow that. Server map systems This is a big topic and I don’t have enough coding experience to know exactly what changes are needed but this is probably the single biggest issue facing Atlas. As it stands right now you can now play single player or non-dedicated with the full official map. Or try the actual official servers. However, unofficial servers are basically non-existent for truly large maps. The game is designed for a large map. The official 15x15 is 225 shards/servers. As it stands now it costs thousands of dollars to have the hardware capable of running a full 15x15 server. So, we have these smaller ones. The problem is that they don’t deliver the full experience because the game isn’t designed for “small” maps. Blackwood attempts to provide this by having a fully custom experience, but that isn’t much better than non-dedicated because it is too small, resources, quests, etc. I have tried to come up with ways to make this work. I’ve had a 5x5 custom map designed which I can run on a single “server” albeit one with Dual 8core/16t processors and 192gb of ram. That is an extreme example. It highlights the big issue. Another workaround that I have been talking with the developer of one of the Atlas Server Utilities about is a hybrid solution. Have a Set number of shards say a 3x3 as a “permanent” online server. This server is running the 15x15 map. Using a discord integration, a player can send a command to a bot to boot up shards F3, F4, F5, etc. This in turn would have those shards boot up for X amount of time and shutdown XX minutes after no players are detected. Something that could be configured for each server integration. Some hurdles are when a player logs off on a temporary shard and that shard shuts down if the player forgets what shard they are in, there needs to be a way to see last known location. This is complicated by a bug with Atlas that player locations are buggy. Often players will be shown online in several shards at once when they are not there. This is likely due to some issue with Redis not sending back data to the shards when a player moves to a new shard. Often this is seen when a “sleeping” logged off player is moved to a new shard on a moving ship. Although it occurs without that happening as well. Another option is for Grapeshot too develop a better server system that integrates some of the features of the single player/non-dedicated experience. Custom maps and the quests. This is got to be the messiest part of having custom maps, trying to integrate the quests and locations correctly. It can be done but it is so damn messy and when new content gets added it frequently must be done again. This needs to be fixed. A re-write of how quests are tracked internally in the game needs to happen. When a server admin must spend more time on upkeep than playing the game or simply cannot because of IRL things like a JOB, and Family, then the game just gets dropped. In closing, I want to stress that this post is just my opinion, though many parts are shared by the players who have player on my servers. Along with other server admins I have spoken too on the various discord servers. Generally, the conscious is that Atlas has great potential but as it stands now it just isn’t worth the time, money, and aggravation. Any constructive opinions are welcome.

This is a bug going back months that they never fixed. U need to update your difficulty so that max wilds stop at about level 80 seems to be the magic number. Over Level 80 wild once tamed generally are bugged. I know that 90 plus will all be bugged. This appears to be because they took the ARK difficulty settings that were working fine in ARK ported them to atlas and broke them. One more notch in the long caravan of fails with Atlas. I WANT this game to work but they changed too many internal mechanics that used to work and fubared them, and this is just one more. Update: Level 80 is also bugged I re-adjusted difficulty to 1.9 and level 68 works.

"seamlessDataPort": 27000, "isHomeServer": false, "AdditionalCmdLineParams": "", "OverrideShooterGameModeDefaultGameIni": {}, "floorZDist": 0, "utcOffset": 0, "transitionMinZ": 0, "GlobalBiomeSeamlessServerGridPreOffsetValues": "(BiomeZoneName=\"Temperate At Land\",PreOffsetMaxDistanceFromShore=100000.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureMultiplier=1.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureMultiplierMaxDistanceFromShore=1.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureAdditionMaxDistanceFromShore=-9.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureAddition=0.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureExponent=1.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureExponentMaxDistanceFromShore=1.000000,BiomeZoneNameAltDistanceName=\"Temperate Open Water\",BiomeZoneNameAltDistanceAmount=0.000000)", "GlobalBiomeSeamlessServerGridPreOffsetValuesOceanWater": "(BiomeZoneName=\"Temperate Ocean Water\",PreOffsetMaxDistanceFromShore=17500.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureMultiplier=1.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureMultiplierMaxDistanceFromShore=1.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureAdditionMaxDistanceFromShore=-31.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureAddition=-5.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureExponent=1.000000,PreOffsetTemperatureExponentMaxDistanceFromShore=1.000000,BiomeZoneNameAltDistanceName=\"Temperate Deep Ocean\",BiomeZoneNameAltDistanceAmount=0.500000)", "OceanDinoDepthEntriesOverride": "", "OceanEpicSpawnEntriesOverrideValues": "(NPCSpawnEntries=((NPCsToSpawn=(BlueprintGeneratedClass'/Game/Atlas/Creatures/MeanWhale/MeanWhale_Character_BP.MeanWhale_Character_BP_C'),NPCsSpawnOffsets=((X=0.000000,Y=0.000000,Z=-700.000000)),NPCsToSpawnPercentageChance=(1.000000))),NPCSpawnLimits=,MaxDesiredNumEnemiesMultiplier=12.000000)", "oceanFloatsamCratesOverride": "", "treasureMapLootTablesOverride": "", "oceanEpicSpawnEntriesOverrideTemplateName": "", "NPCShipSpawnEntriesOverrideTemplateName": "", That's exactly what's in my json and all my creature spawns work respective for each grid.

NPCShipNumMult increases number of them, I wouldn't go above 1.5 as they seem to cluster together so you would end up with 4-5 in a group. You could also increase difficulty of them which is the first option NPCShipDifficultyMult setting 1.5 seems to increase to level 60+. Their HP and DMG scales be aware.

seems like you have something corrupted. I'd try a steamcmd update with Validate. Make sure you backup all your save and config files. Including redis.conf files as the steamcmd Validate will reset many config files. FYI, Unreal engine can't use a page file so if its out of ram its out. However, if this is something new then it is prob a corruption of some sort.

Fountain of youth was just added to the game. 2 of them randomly appear on Golden Ruins Islands _PVE islands. I am not sure how it works if you only have 1 or 2 of those islands on your map.

Jat posted a separate servergrid.json sample in the original post the separate sample has no templates and all the grids are manually configured.

they are configured in your servergrid.json either manually or with island editor

As I mentioned a Quad CPU server requires additionally licensing it will startup but windows won't use all 4 w/o licensing and Windows 10 doesn't support more than 2 CPUs at all unless you have that special Workstation version

Those variables go in ServerCustomDatas1: but must be matched by their variables for each in ServerCustomDatas2: if u wanted those active it be the below line, but be aware that DisableRain and RainIntervalMultiplier may be conflict as Rain Interval is made to make it rain more often while disable rain disables rain. Also use leading and ending commas , on each line I am not 100% you need to but it is setup that way in all sample files. I believe it is done so some variables will chain so I recommend doing so as well. I am not 100% sure about the DisableRain and RainInterveral as they appear together in some of the official samples. It may be that way as they plan to seperate rain and cyclones in the future or had them separated at one time. ,1.0,1.0,1.0,0.0,1.0,1.0,0.36,

Good to know, i stopped at 3x when nothing changed. as for experience tics you could try vanilla ark levelramps for players and dinos see if that works.

What operating system are you using? There are windows licensing and hard limits with both windows 10 and Windows server 2016 changed to core count licensing last year.

Ya we tested levelramp changes and nothing so far has affected the ships. I spent hours messing with it and restarted my grid nothing worked on ships. They do show a "tame bar" if you are in setcheatplayer true in spectator mode so this indicates to me they are still some sort of "creature" like Rafts are in ARK. Either we haven't figured out the settings or these things were hardcoded when they made them. Likely if they are hardcoded that will change or be accessible when devkit comes out.

I am not aware of any information but prob on _PVE islands if they are in game atm. Also there are a couple unique islands that they may be on or will be. Mnt_Q_ER and Mnt_Z_CH both seem to be very uniquely created islands. Most other islands appear to just be created from the PG system then tweaked.

FYI, some things get hard coded into the redis db and it doesn't necessary get retro-changed when u change the shard ini's, this is different than ARK. So for testing purposes you'd want to full wipe if you are changing constantly as things may get wonky or redis may get corrupted. I had similar problems until we wiped redis and started over.

You will have cpu utilization issues long before you have ram problems. General rule of thumb is about 1 real core per grid. You can push it a little past that but not much. You can push more past 1 grid per core if your clock speeds are very high i.e over 3.3ghz but you'd need to test it.

You didn't start or setup redis. You need make sure redis is running and the redis.conf is configured to match your servergrid jsons

Mermaids are event triggered by players, i.e. they will spawn and make you dance on your boat and fall off. You get a small buff and usually rubys. It shows a circle in the ocean with music notes. I haven't seen "actual" mermaids and am not sure they are fully implemented yet. They are only on the _PVE golden ruins grids on official. I have a screenshot somewhere but can't find it atm. This is my personal spreadsheet of the spawns using the "templates" in the grid editor doesn't seem to fully work and on the sample file they provided of the official map they are not using templates and have manually configured each grid. The biomes on my spreadsheet are exactly what is in the official map servergrid (not the one on github but the 2nd one jat linked separately). Everything under line 24 where it says special notes are my own modifications and testing. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DvE-AK1s_x5Q-1FLgXPKyWUK3qaFeRQ_4nEvn-1o-Sk/edit?usp=sharing

This also could be due to your map setup. Certain islands will have dramatically different resource allocation. You will notice on official that nearly all _PVE islands are in a solo grid or with 1 or 2 other islands. Also if the islands are too close within the same grid this seems to cause issues along with overlaps of the actual island footprint with another island especially if two islands are dramatically different. i.e overlapping the footprint of a Tropical and Polar island causes all sorts of weirdness.

Very dangerous and my testing shows this doesn't completely work. I did several tests and redis would update but in game would not. You can rename their "first name" but simply selecting with cheat renameplayer but the "last name" appears to be something new that may not work the same.

I have spent a lot of time testing in this area and ships appear to be a new "class" but somehow tied to "dinos" from ark. This due to the dinomax xp you can change to get more levels on a ship (up to 72 max). I suspect they have hardcoded some things at this point or we just have not been able to get the class names. I know that many people have asked Jat on twitter and in discords and I haven't seen any answer or progress. So my theory is that some of this information is hardcoded and they may change that in the future but admitting it now would just get them lots of pressure to change it when they are just trying to get things stable. All this said, when the devkit comes out HOPEFULLY this week as they said we will either get correct class names to override in settings or mods can be made to change this.