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Cargo racks were one of the features I was really looking forward to in this update. Finally, an efficiency increase transporting heavy mats or items from grid to grid. As implemented, especially on PVP, these are useless.

70% reduction in item weight, with 8k pre-reduction limit per rack seemed pretty fair... this would allow my transport gally (6 racks) to turn 48k weight into 14.4k and the boat weight to be at around 50%. But a 40% reduction in speed when you've placed as many as you can? Why was any speed reduction necessary, especially something as ridiculous as 40%? 

This idea was gifted to you by the community, who pretty much all agreed that improvements were needed when it came to transporting heavy items. Instead what you've added is barely more efficient than just sailing back and forth twice, and considerably more dangerous. 0/10

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i only tryed it with a brig with 2 racks and taking into consideration what i was carrying i think the amount iwas slowed was fair... u shouldnt be able to transport tons of stuff with no downside.... if ur afraid of getting caught slap some cannons on it or get another to escort u...  

 

also the wheight sails been buffed.. try to replace 3 speedsails with wheightsails they help ur speedsails by being less affected by wheight…. also other threads under the genral forum says that 6 cargo racks is overkill for a gally… 3-4 for gally 1-2 for a brig and 1 for a schooner

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The 8k pre-reduction cap per rack and 70% weight reduction prevents you from carrying too much. Slapping a few cannons on a weight-leveled galleon is just more meaningless weight and crew to maintain, and if I need to bring another boat out to protect my barely moving transport then why not just bring another transport?

Swapping 3 of my speed sails for weight sails doesn't really help, as the active weight of my ship isn't really the issue, it's the flat % speed reduction from the cargo racks that is. I don't think the ship weight % decrease by doing that even post-weight sail buff is going to outweigh losing 3 speeds. This also permanently reduces my galleons speed when I'm not hauling stuff.

Dropping from 6 to 4 racks is the same problem... it's not the weight of the items inside that is the problem. If I drop to 4 racks I'm only doing it to lower the speed penalty, and it's still 27% with 4.

Finally, the cargo racks reduce your ship speed whether there's anything in them or not. So I'm also expected to demo them when I'm not using them and either craft new or carry precrafted ones around when I'm not hauling? Come on.

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well if u absolutly want to be a cranky old ass then go sail multiple times i dunno what to say.. it works for my company just fine and the other ppl in the other thread dont complain either lol

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realistically they should scale up to 40% when filled and have no effect empty... 

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Should slow down 10% not 40, now it is useless and sailing is already boring af.

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Not useless.  We use them all the time.  Bitch about it and stay poor or take advantage of it and get rich. 

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The cargo racks overcome their speed penalty at a very low weight.  I find it super useful to carry 700 building pieces and be faster then the guy with 150 and no rack.

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I love the cargo racks. I keep one in a box on all my ships till I need it. Cargo rack and weight sails combo has been a god send to hauling. Also whistle a couple of unmounted tortugas without riders  at highest follow range on follow to island hop using a schooner running heavy and slow enough for them to keep up. Logistics is fun at last and feels like a win for the devs in my books.

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Got to try them on my hauler this weekend, (PVE).

4 speed sails 2 weight sails, +2 cargo racks (they are cheep to make so only fit them for return trip)

Empty no racks traveled out at 19 knots

Returned with 60% weight at 12 knots

i think i'll use 2 more racks next time, expecting 9-10 knots.

Now all I need is a purpose built loading dock, that took an age to unload.

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On 6/8/2019 at 7:51 AM, Polar Express said:

I love the cargo racks. I keep one in a box on all my ships till I need it. Cargo rack and weight sails combo has been a god send to hauling. Also whistle a couple of unmounted tortugas without riders  at highest follow range on follow to island hop using a schooner running heavy and slow enough for them to keep up. Logistics is fun at last and feels like a win for the devs in my books.

Silly question?  Why the tortugas?

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A better weight ratio or a speed buff is definitely called for here. For now at the very least until the market system is perfected and player base is restored so the economy can offset the grind. can always change it later, early access and all that. 

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On 6/11/2019 at 3:02 AM, Jack Shandy said:

Now all I need is a purpose built loading dock, that took an age to unload.

Yes that's my biggest problem now too, and tames only barely help. Wish I could get those lazy NPCs to help. Would love to see the Caribbean conga line marching back and forth to my base container while I smoke a pipe on my observation deck.

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it would be nice if we could drop the cargo container not only when the ship is destroyed but on purpose so we can just drop the container on a close enough dock construction, pick up another cargo container and sail on. 

for example when selecting "place container" from the cargo rack menu we can then place it in a small area around the cargo rack on land, water or the ship deck, when there is enough free room to place the container. it would allow the crane to function well as a crane and help with ship constructions that collide with cargo racks hanging on the outside. they can still be spottet by pirates when placed on deck.

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