Konvar 24 Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 15x15=225 square. 225*4=900 of the islands 900x2 PVE Server=1800 of the islands 1800x30(flag on the island) somewhere about 50000-55000 ATLAS PVE players! Why don't you give a flag to everyone? Edited March 12, 2019 by Konvar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LifelessGamer 17 Posted March 12, 2019 https://atlas.hgn.hu/ At the rate players are leaving next will be an island for each player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chucksteak 279 Posted March 12, 2019 Im guessing 1 or 2 flags per person was just too easy. 15 minutes ago, LifelessGamer said: https://atlas.hgn.hu/ This is utterly meaningless at this point in time. Thats a disingenuous stat to toss up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LifelessGamer 17 Posted March 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Chucksteak said: This is utterly meaningless at this point in time. Thats a disingenuous stat to toss up. Real time stats on the live servers are disingenuous how? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kummba 164 Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, LifelessGamer said: 13 minutes ago, Chucksteak said: This is utterly meaningless at this point in time. Thats a disingenuous stat to toss up. Real time stats on the live servers are disingenuous how? With wipe comming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GP] Guybrush Threepwood 626 Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, LifelessGamer said: Real time stats on the live servers are disingenuous how? It's because everyone expects there to be hardly anyone playing. You are using those stats as if that is the playerbase, when we all know that many have stopped playing until AFTER the wipe. You showing those stats ARE meaningless in the current situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LifelessGamer 17 Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, [GP] Guybrush Threepwood said: It's because everyone expects there to be hardly anyone playing. You are using those stats as if that is the playerbase, when we all know that many have stopped playing until AFTER the wipe. You showing those stats ARE meaningless in the current situation. You not liking the numbers doesn't make them disingenuous. The best anyone could say is after the patch they would like to see where the numbers stabilize.. We all know that more won't return than will. After the patch hits look at the numbers, that will be the best it will be for this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GP] Guybrush Threepwood 626 Posted March 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, LifelessGamer said: You not liking the numbers doesn't make them disingenuous. The best anyone could say is after the patch they would like to see where the numbers stabilize.. We all know that more won't return than will. After the patch hits look at the numbers, that will be the best it will be for this game. Actually it is disingenuous. I never said anything about not liking the numbers, but the fact that you show those numbers as being the true playerbase is an attempt to pretend that there is not a good reason for them so when people see it they will think that is a true representation of the playerbase. So yes, it does make them disingenuous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizik 43 Posted March 12, 2019 Just to point out that it is also the middle of the day in the EU and morning in the Americas on a normal weekday. Not exactly peak player times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LifelessGamer 17 Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, [GP] Guybrush Threepwood said: Actually it is disingenuous. I never said anything about not liking the numbers, but the fact that you show those numbers as being the true playerbase is an attempt to pretend that there is not a good reason for them so when people see it they will think that is a true representation of the playerbase. So yes, it does make them disingenuous. Correct, I said you don't like them. The numbers are real, you going "ya butttt" means you just don't like them. You go on to misread the data: True playerbase is not what that site gives, it gives the current online players for the official servers-nothing more. 26 minutes ago, Pizik said: Just to point out that it is also the middle of the day in the EU and morning in the Americas on a normal weekday. Not exactly peak player times. You can check out the site during peak time. I found it interesting in not the numbers I was expecting when I checked over the weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GP] Guybrush Threepwood 626 Posted March 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, LifelessGamer said: Correct, I said you don't like them. The numbers are real, you going "ya butttt" means you just don't like them. You go on to misread the data: True playerbase is not what that site gives, it gives the current online players for the official servers-nothing more. I neither like them nor dislike them, that's because I understand why they are low. They are expected to be low. Why on earth would anyone that expects the numbers to be as they are dislike them? There is no point in anyone commenting on how low the numbers are right now because people know why they are low. You really are coming up with some crap aren't ya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LifelessGamer 17 Posted March 12, 2019 37 minutes ago, [GP] Guybrush Threepwood said: I neither like them nor dislike them, that's because I understand why they are low. They are expected to be low. Why on earth would anyone that expects the numbers to be as they are dislike them? There is no point in anyone commenting on how low the numbers are right now because people know why they are low. You really are coming up with some crap aren't ya. Who was claiming numbers to be disingenuous? Synonyms of disingenuous are distorted, misrepresented, twisted, ect. Almost like you don't like what you see. The truth is, numbers are what they are. They are neither low nor high. I find the numbers very telling in a number of ways. One example is we know there were thousand strong companies, they're gone. Will the come back-some-but most won't because it is a pain to. If the small groups left and are in the middle of a different game I'm not sure they will drop that in numbers to return after the patch. Lets be frank, idk if the patch will even be an upgrade to the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DocHolliday 366 Posted March 12, 2019 Observe Lifelessgamer's profile pic. Talking to him is equal to that. Don't bother. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maji 8 Posted March 12, 2019 One problem with your math: You didn't account for freeports, lawless, and Golden Age areas. Its more like 400+200 new islands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Talono 434 Posted March 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Chucksteak said: Im guessing 1 or 2 flags per person was just too easy. This is utterly meaningless at this point in time. Thats a disingenuous stat to toss up. So true... but the number of customers dont seem to bother them. Maybe they made enough money with the game already ? Astonishing ! My boss always asks for new customers. But the techniques Grapeshot/Wildcard is using to drive customers away are really unmatched ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Draalei 31 Posted March 12, 2019 I've played well over 600 hours. I played with all the bugs and glitches, some I know will be fixed, some I know will never be fixed because they are the same glitches that have always existed in Ark. I've even been playing a lot since they announced the wipe. Leveling ships by hunting SoTD, trying crazy ship and building builds. With 6x harvesting why not try crazy things, it's not like wasting mats. I've been sailing around gathering different mats to make high end blueprint stuff. All in all, I've really enjoyed the game. But, I guess I'm finally done. Why? ""Host Connection Timeout" I haven't been able to log in for over 12 hours now. Despite all the flaws and what I consider bad decisions, I really enjoy the game. I would like to play, but if I can't, I'm done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[GP] Guybrush Threepwood 626 Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, LifelessGamer said: Who was claiming numbers to be disingenuous? Synonyms of disingenuous are distorted, misrepresented, twisted, ect. Almost like you don't like what you see. The truth is, numbers are what they are. They are neither low nor high. Definition of disingenuous: not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. People posting these player figures to claim how dead or failing the game is in an attempt to make it look like numbers are really low for reasons they are not. Most people know why they are low and expected them to be low, whereas new people wouldn't necessarily know the reason. But I can see you are trolling now by repeatedly claiming I don't like the numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winter Thorne 696 Posted March 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, [GP] Guybrush Threepwood said: Definition of disingenuous: not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. People posting these player figures to claim how dead or failing the game is in an attempt to make it look like numbers are really low for reasons they are not. Most people know why they are low and expected them to be low, whereas new people wouldn't necessarily know the reason. But I can see you are trolling now by repeatedly claiming I don't like the numbers. When you're figuring number of claims needed, those numbers don't matter anyway because that's concurrent players. It's not like when you log off for the night, your claim is magically replaced with one for the player that's just getting online... wait a minute...there's an idea... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LifelessGamer 17 Posted March 12, 2019 3 hours ago, [GP] Guybrush Threepwood said: Definition of disingenuous: not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. People posting these player figures to claim how dead or failing the game is in an attempt to make it look like numbers are really low for reasons they are not. Most people know why they are low and expected them to be low, whereas new people wouldn't necessarily know the reason. But I can see you are trolling now by repeatedly claiming I don't like the numbers. I could really care less what the numbers are, I have no effect on what they are. I have a vested interest in the numbers being high actually (I paid for the game/own a copy/game itself is fine and the problem is with the rules.) I have no want or need to tear the game down. Ones tearing the game down so far are the devs, all what you see is the result of them. Can they get people to return? Time will tell. If you like the numbers then why the excuses for them being low? Why so defensive if they show everything is fine? That was all said in a positive way though right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enki Anunnaki 240 Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) yall act like PC is gonna be the only platform this game will be on after completion. the game will go on, with or without your participation. other platforms will probably have more players online at one time compared to pc so ironing out the issues now, while it's primarily on pc, is imperative. And lets be real, chinese player cafe's, mega tribes and mega tribes alliance with other mega tribes are not really gonna be a thing on other platforms. Edited March 12, 2019 by Enki Anunnaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
microphobe 72 Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Enki Anunnaki said: yall act like PC is gonna be the only platform this game will be on after completion. the game will go on, with or without your participation. other platforms will probably have more players online at one time compared to pc so ironing out the issues now, while it's primarily on pc, is imperative. And lets be real, chinese player cafe's, mega tribes and mega tribes alliance with other mega tribes are not really gonna be a thing on other platforms. This game will only do well on console if they iron out a lot of the issues on pc first. console is more casual so I would expect more anti random and offline pvp stuff in future as well. In terms of numbers they really don't mean anything during this phase of ea. This is about getting the core game mechanics running in a way that works best for the majority. It is expected that a "bad" patch will drop numbers and a "good" one will bring them back. The numbers won't matter for another 6-12 months when the game should be less volatile and people can just worry about playing not worry about which bug is going to delete what. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vegetto 59 Posted March 13, 2019 17 hours ago, Konvar said: 15x15=225 square. 225*4=900 of the islands 900x2 PVE Server=1800 of the islands 1800x30(flag on the island) somewhere about 50000-55000 ATLAS PVE players! Why don't you give a flag to everyone? They have limited 1 flag per person, but 1 flag can claim a small island which has less rank. Wait till the test server is updated to see what they come up with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konvar 24 Posted March 14, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 8:18 PM, Maji said: One problem with your math: You didn't account for freeports, lawless, and Golden Age areas. Its more like 400+200 new islands. I agree. It is not accurate. This is better than believing in good landlords! After cleaning, if the new landlord system does not work, everyone will leave ATLAS. (bought conan yesterday. 50% discount. 14.03. the test is missing. New Atlas no.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
