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I can confirm that RenWmn   is correct and simply adding a few more ExperiencePointsForLevel values has allowed me to tame a level 120 wild Pig and still get XP.

I have attached our 'Fun' server config, which has custom harvest multipliers, 10 skill points per level, all skills cost 1 point and the custom creature level settings. Just use what parts you wish and have some fun! :classic_biggrin:

 

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hello to this old topic.

i just used it to configure my custom server correctly. thanks for your information.

but i have to correct one thing and i dont know if this is because of a recent patch or whatever:

the max level you define in your game.ini example is NOT about the max level of the tame, before taming or after. its about the max number of levels it can get.

let me explain:

in your game.ini dino levels from 0 to 209 are defined. thats 210 total levels. if you (force)tame a level 140 animal it will be level 210, but it wont exp. if you do a level 139, it will be 208 and also not exp. but if you do a level 120 it will be a level 180 and this one gets xp. why? because the max level a tame can get is: level after tame + level after tame + 30. so a level 180 can level 210 times. and there is your number 210 again.

so any tame which could gain more than 210 levels will not gain xp at all.

a very confusing configuration.

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1 hour ago, Tamelomn said:

hello to this old topic.

i just used it to configure my custom server correctly. thanks for your information.

but i have to correct one thing and i dont know if this is because of a recent patch or whatever:

the max level you define in your game.ini example is NOT about the max level of the tame, before taming or after. its about the max number of levels it can get.

let me explain:

in your game.ini dino levels from 0 to 209 are defined. thats 210 total levels. if you (force)tame a level 140 animal it will be level 210, but it wont exp. if you do a level 139, it will be 208 and also not exp. but if you do a level 120 it will be a level 180 and this one gets xp. why? because the max level a tame can get is: level after tame + level after tame + 30. so a level 180 can level 210 times. and there is your number 210 again.

so any tame which could gain more than 210 levels will not gain xp at all.

a very confusing configuration.

 

Hey, Tamelomn!  

Thank you for the clarification. I didn't mean to be unclear about "max gained level after tame".   Just like in Ark the second leveling chart isn't about the max total level of a creature but it indicates the max level that creature can GAIN after it becomes tame. The possible it can gain is its level before tame + 1.5 max total (Which would be its level if there was a perfect tame) + 30 which is the amount added to the formula by Grapeshot Games.  A while back in the patch notes it was indicated that a low level character will be able to gain at least 30 levels after tame.  This must have been how they accommodated that.

I'll see if I can't be more clear below with instructions.  If anyone sees something that I need to change please let me know!

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Steam Guide: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1677567541

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Server Configuration for Max Levels of Players and Gained Levels for Tamed Creatures

There are two leveling charts that can be added to each map cells individual  game.ini to indicate the max level of both player characters and tamed creatures.  

  1. The max of the first chart indicates the max level for a player character.
  2. The second chart indicates the max levels a tamed creature can GAIN after it is tamed.

Both charts can look identical. The first chart is always for the players.  The second chart is always to indicate the max added level after it is tamed.

Syntax of Player Chart:


LevelExperienceRampOverrides=(ExperiencePointsForLevel[0]=y,ExperiencePointsForLevel[1]=y+x,ExperiencePointsForLevel[1]=y+x+w,.....

OR

ExperiencePointsforLevel[x]=total of all player experience


Example: LevelExperienceRampOverrides=(ExperiencePointsForLevel[0]=5,ExperiencePointsForLevel[1]=20,ExperiencePointsForLevel[2]=40,ExperiencePointsForLevel[3]=70,

The second value in each part of the formula is NOT the max experience points needed for a level, but the max TOTAL experience a player character would need for a particular level.

If you wish to change the amount of levels a creature can gain after it becomes tamed, but leave the player levels default then the code for the entire first chart will be:

LevelExperienceRampOverrides=()

When the player level chart is edited the value of the below must be increased to at least the final value of the total experience points at max level. 

OverrideMaxExperiencePointsPlayer=z  

Note: Value z above can be higher than the total experience points at max level. 



Syntax for Gained Creature Levels after Tame:

LevelExperienceRampOverrides=(ExperiencePointsForLevel[0]=y,ExperiencePointsForLevel[1]=y+x,ExperiencePointsForLevel[1]=y+x+w,.....

In this case the y value = first amount of xp needed for a tamed creature to gain its first post-wild level. 

Note: The last level in the creature chart needs to be the max additional level a creature can gain after it is tamed.  This value is configured with the formula:

Max Wild Level of Creatures * 1.5 + 30   

If a creature is tamed "perfectly" the total levels it will gain from being tamed is:

Level before tame * 1.5

The additional 30 levels is code that allowed all tamed creatures no matter the level to gain at least 30 levels of experience. This change happened in v9.2

 

Quote

- Every Tame can now get a minimum of 30 tame level-ups put into it, plus however many base levels it had when wild. So for example, a level 5 wild wolf would get 35 tame level-ups to apply, whereas a level 40 wild wolf would get 70 tame level-ups to use. 


If the creature chart does not contain the total additional  level that a tamed creature can gain then said creature won't be able to gain experience at all!

When the creature chart for max levels gained after tame is changed the below value needs to be updated 
to at least the final value of the total experience points at max gained creature level. 

OverrideMaxExperiencePointsDino=a

Note: Value a above can be higher than the total additional experience points needed for max gained creature level.


Link to tool  that will help with custom level charts:  http://arksurvivalevolved.gamewalkthrough-universe.com/dedicatedservers/customizationtools/customlevelstool/Default.aspx

Note: The player level chart will set the max level of a player character on its own.  The max wild creature level is actually set by difficulty value.

Example below Max Player Level 129 and all tames from wild creatures level 120 and below will be able to level properly. 

LevelExperienceRampOverrides=(ExperiencePointsForLevel[0]=5,ExperiencePointsForLevel[1]=20,ExperiencePointsForLevel[2]=40,ExperiencePointsForLevel[3]=70,ExperiencePointsForLevel[4]=120,ExperiencePointsForLevel[5]=190,ExperiencePointsForLevel[6]=270,ExperiencePointsForLevel[7]=360,ExperiencePointsForLevel[8]=450,ExperiencePointsForLevel[9]=550,ExperiencePointsForLevel[10]=660,ExperiencePointsForLevel[11]=780,ExperiencePointsForLevel[12]=910,ExperiencePointsForLevel[13]=1050,ExperiencePointsForLevel[14]=1200,ExperiencePointsForLevel[15]=1360,ExperiencePointsForLevel[16]=1530,ExperiencePointsForLevel[17]=1710,ExperiencePointsForLevel[18]=1900,ExperiencePointsForLevel[19]=2100,ExperiencePointsForLevel[20]=2310,ExperiencePointsForLevel[21]=2530,ExperiencePointsForLevel[22]=2760,ExperiencePointsForLevel[23]=3000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[24]=3250,ExperiencePointsForLevel[25]=3510,ExperiencePointsForLevel[26]=3780,ExperiencePointsForLevel[27]=4060,ExperiencePointsForLevel[28]=4350,ExperiencePointsForLevel[29]=4650,ExperiencePointsForLevel[30]=4960,ExperiencePointsForLevel[31]=5280,ExperiencePointsForLevel[32]=5610,ExperiencePointsForLevel[33]=5950,ExperiencePointsForLevel[34]=6300,ExperiencePointsForLevel[35]=6660,ExperiencePointsForLevel[36]=7030,ExperiencePointsForLevel[37]=7410,ExperiencePointsForLevel[38]=7800,ExperiencePointsForLevel[39]=8200,ExperiencePointsForLevel[40]=8610,ExperiencePointsForLevel[41]=9030,ExperiencePointsForLevel[42]=9460,ExperiencePointsForLevel[43]=9900,ExperiencePointsForLevel[44]=10350,ExperiencePointsForLevel[45]=10810,ExperiencePointsForLevel[46]=11280,ExperiencePointsForLevel[47]=11760,ExperiencePointsForLevel[48]=12250,ExperiencePointsForLevel[49]=12750,ExperiencePointsForLevel[50]=13260,ExperiencePointsForLevel[51]=13780,ExperiencePointsForLevel[52]=14310,ExperiencePointsForLevel[53]=14850,ExperiencePointsForLevel[54]=15400,ExperiencePointsForLevel[55]=15960,ExperiencePointsForLevel[56]=16530,ExperiencePointsForLevel[57]=17110,ExperiencePointsForLevel[58]=17700,ExperiencePointsForLevel[59]=18850,ExperiencePointsForLevel[60]=21078,ExperiencePointsForLevel[61]=22448,ExperiencePointsForLevel[62]=23908,ExperiencePointsForLevel[63]=25462,ExperiencePointsForLevel[64]=27498,ExperiencePointsForLevel[65]=30248,ExperiencePointsForLevel[66]=34786,ExperiencePointsForLevel[67]=40004,ExperiencePointsForLevel[68]=46804,ExperiencePointsForLevel[69]=54761,ExperiencePointsForLevel[70]=63713,ExperiencePointsForLevel[71]=73000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[72]=85000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[73]=98000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[74]=112000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[75]=127500,ExperiencePointsForLevel[76]=144500,ExperiencePointsForLevel[77]=163500,ExperiencePointsForLevel[78]=184500,ExperiencePointsForLevel[79]=207500,ExperiencePointsForLevel[80]=232570,ExperiencePointsForLevel[81]=259896,ExperiencePointsForLevel[82]=289681,ExperiencePointsForLevel[83]=323189,ExperiencePointsForLevel[84]=360886,ExperiencePointsForLevel[85]=403318,ExperiencePointsForLevel[86]=451484,ExperiencePointsForLevel[87]=506186,ExperiencePointsForLevel[88]=566358,ExperiencePointsForLevel[89]=632547,ExperiencePointsForLevel[90]=705354,ExperiencePointsForLevel[91]=785441,ExperiencePointsForLevel[92]=873538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[93]=971538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[94]=1083538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[95]=1213538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[96]=1368538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[97]=1558538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[98]=1798538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[99]=2098538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[100]=2468538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[101]=2918538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[102]=3458538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[103]=4098538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[104]=4208538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[105]=4333538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[106]=4478538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[107]=4648538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[108]=4848538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[109]=5083538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[110]=5355838,ExperiencePointsForLevel[111]=5678538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[112]=6048538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[113]=6473538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[114]=6873538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[115]=7273538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[116]=7673538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[117]=8073538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[118]=8473538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[119]=8873538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[120]=9273538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[121]=9673538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[122]=10073538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[123]=10473538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[124]=10873538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[125]=11273538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[126]=11673538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[127]=12073538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[128]=12473538,ExperiencePointsForLevel[129]=12873538)
LevelExperienceRampOverrides=(ExperiencePointsForLevel[0]=10,ExperiencePointsForLevel[1]=30,ExperiencePointsForLevel[2]=60,ExperiencePointsForLevel[3]=100,ExperiencePointsForLevel[4]=150,ExperiencePointsForLevel[5]=210,ExperiencePointsForLevel[6]=280,ExperiencePointsForLevel[7]=360,ExperiencePointsForLevel[8]=450,ExperiencePointsForLevel[9]=550,ExperiencePointsForLevel[10]=660,ExperiencePointsForLevel[11]=780,ExperiencePointsForLevel[12]=910,ExperiencePointsForLevel[13]=1050,ExperiencePointsForLevel[14]=1200,ExperiencePointsForLevel[15]=1360,ExperiencePointsForLevel[16]=1530,ExperiencePointsForLevel[17]=1710,ExperiencePointsForLevel[18]=1900,ExperiencePointsForLevel[19]=2100,ExperiencePointsForLevel[20]=2310,ExperiencePointsForLevel[21]=2530,ExperiencePointsForLevel[22]=2760,ExperiencePointsForLevel[23]=3000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[24]=3250,ExperiencePointsForLevel[25]=3510,ExperiencePointsForLevel[26]=3780,ExperiencePointsForLevel[27]=4060,ExperiencePointsForLevel[28]=4350,ExperiencePointsForLevel[29]=4650,ExperiencePointsForLevel[30]=4960,ExperiencePointsForLevel[31]=5280,ExperiencePointsForLevel[32]=5610,ExperiencePointsForLevel[33]=5950,ExperiencePointsForLevel[34]=6545,ExperiencePointsForLevel[35]=7199,ExperiencePointsForLevel[36]=7919,ExperiencePointsForLevel[37]=8711,ExperiencePointsForLevel[38]=9582,ExperiencePointsForLevel[39]=10540,ExperiencePointsForLevel[40]=11594,ExperiencePointsForLevel[41]=12985,ExperiencePointsForLevel[42]=14932,ExperiencePointsForLevel[43]=17172,ExperiencePointsForLevel[44]=19748,ExperiencePointsForLevel[45]=23105,ExperiencePointsForLevel[46]=27105,ExperiencePointsForLevel[47]=31505,ExperiencePointsForLevel[48]=36005,ExperiencePointsForLevel[49]=41000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[50]=47000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[51]=55000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[52]=65000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[53]=80000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[54]=100000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[55]=120000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[56]=140000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[57]=160000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[58]=180000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[59]=200000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[60]=220000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[61]=240000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[62]=260000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[63]=280000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[64]=300000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[65]=325000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[66]=350000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[67]=375000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[68]=400000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[69]=425000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[70]=450000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[71]=475000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[72]=500000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[73]=525000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[74]=550000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[75]=575000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[76]=600000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[77]=625000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[78]=650000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[79]=675000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[80]=700000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[81]=740000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[82]=780000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[83]=820000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[84]=860000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[85]=900000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[86]=940000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[87]=980000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[88]=1020000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[89]=1060000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[90]=1100000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[91]=1150000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[92]=1200000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[93]=1250000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[94]=1300000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[95]=1350000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[96]=1400000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[97]=1450000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[98]=1500000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[99]=1550000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[100]=1600000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[101]=1650000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[102]=1700000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[103]=1750000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[104]=1800000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[105]=1850000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[106]=1900000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[107]=1950000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[108]=2000000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[109]=2050000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[110]=2100000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[111]=2150000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[112]=2200000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[113]=2250000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[114]=2300000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[115]=2350000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[116]=2400000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[117]=2450000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[118]=2500000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[119]=2550000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[120]=2600000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[121]=2650000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[122]=2700000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[123]=2750000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[124]=2800000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[125]=2850000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[126]=2900000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[127]=2950000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[128]=3000000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[129]=3050000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[130]=3100000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[131]=3150000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[132]=3200000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[133]=3250000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[134]=3300000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[135]=3350000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[136]=3400000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[137]=3450000,ExperiencePointsForLevel[138]=350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OverrideMaxExperiencePointsPlayer=12873538
OverrideMaxExperiencePointsDino=7500000

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Does this still work? because i cannot for the life of me get this to work, ive tried this and a mod that claims to have this in it, but no go. its really annoying me and i cant seem to get it to work, i am using nitrado as a server host, not sure if that changes anything

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Well even if it work, it will never be a good solution.
Dev's need to remove the cap.
Adding that many lines in Game.ini will greatly decrease server performances.
They just need to remove the cap in the creatures themselves so like in Ark they start gaining exp after tamed with no cap or cap is really high.
But mods often let you tame level 1000 dinos and they gain exp.
Here it's a base level + exp max 120.
In Ark you gain tamed + start gain exp.
 

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I added a level ramp of 400 to each, player, tame, npc and ships.  Seems as of right now each tame caps out at different levels.  Have one bear capped with 100 levels added, an elephant capped at 110 levels added but have another elephant with 113 levels added and is not capped yet.  
our Game.ini file. https://pastebin.com/RJSvscz9
We increased the official difficulty to x7 on override.  We did a duplicate level ramp for each type.  Not sure what else to do or even how to predict at this point who or what can level to what. This always worked fine in Ark but is totally unpredictable in Atlas it seems. 

Just hoping anyone can help or show us da way.

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Ok i figured out the randomness for the most part and slapped myself in the forehead. 
Tamed Level + 30 = Dinos Max Applied Levels.  This applies to all levels upto the max tame level, and in my case the level ramp of 400. 
Eg.  Tamed Level = 240  (tamed level = wild level + taming efficiency level bonus)
        Max Applied Levels = 240 + 30 = 270

        Tamed Level = 80
        Max Applied Levels = 80 + 30 = 110

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Hello RENWMN,

I have been trying to fix my creatures in my singlepayer world using your code, but no matter how i add it into the sinlge player game.ini file it doesnt take the information and just deletes it. Could you please attach a copy of your game.in file so that i can see what I do wrong and fix my issue???

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Hello RENWMN,

I have been trying to fix my creatures in my singlepayer world using your code, but no matter how i add it into the sinlge player game.ini file it doesn't take the information and just deletes it. Could you please sent a copy of your game.in file so that i can see what I do wrong and fix my issue???

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I know this is an older topic, but this is still the most relevant thread I can find pertaining to levelrampoverrides. 
 

My question is, how are you working around .Json’s error stating duplicate Items?

I.e. the two LevelExperienceRampOverrides lines?

If this isn’t an issue and JSON is simply warning for a possible mistake please let me know, but I think this is my last hurdle.

Any assistance is greatly appreciated!

 

 

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