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who cares if it was ment to be an ark update.. the DLC would have cost the same as EA cost.. Plus there are plenty of poeple that play atlas for atlas not cause of ark.  Everyone bitches its just the same game built on Ark code and just new models and new mecanics..  What do you think battle field IV going to battle field V is..  

Why is it people here on PC have such entitlement that they should get new DLC and new games for free yet you dont hear this crap from people on consoles..

 

Soooo teams cant make differnt games on different engines??? 

One is dinos

One is mythical creatures 

One is pirates.. 

 

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1 minute ago, Scorpionshawn said:

Same team that made Dark and Light

 

You're not even making coherent sense anymore. Like, you didn't make much sense to start, but at this point you've just devolved into ????

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3 minutes ago, Ellentro said:

You're not even making coherent sense anymore. Like, you didn't make much sense to start, but at this point you've just devolved into ????

Hey pal your the one in denial about the game sinking in quick sand! 

5 minutes ago, Pax said:

who cares if it was ment to be an ark update.. the DLC would have cost the same as EA cost.. Plus there are plenty of poeple that play atlas for atlas not cause of ark.  Everyone bitches its just the same game built on Ark code and just new models and new mecanics..  What do you think battle field IV going to battle field V is..  

Why is it people here on PC have such entitlement that they should get new DLC and new games for free yet you dont hear this crap from people on consoles..

 

Soooo teams cant make differnt games on different engines??? 

One is dinos

One is mythical creatures 

One is pirates.. 

 

Ummm yeah a lot of people care because we paid for a DLC pack and if you knew anything at all you would have a leg to stand on and not a peg

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1 minute ago, Scorpionshawn said:

Hey pal your the one in denial about the game sinking in quick sand! 

Denial about what?

The only thing I reject is your opinion that the game is dying because you got wiped and lost your schooner and that the only way to save it is to make it so solo players can beat mega-tribes. 

I think the game is dying because Wildcard is incompetent. Not because you got wiped. 

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4 minutes ago, Scorpionshawn said:

Ummm yeah a lot of people care because we paid for a DLC pack and if you knew anything at all you would have a leg to stand on and not a peg

You paid for a DLC pack ... Same as i did.. You got your DLCs.  SC, Ab and Ext.  Where does that pack say your entitled to everything Wildcard ever makes for 50$

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34 minutes ago, Ellentro said:

Its not something you can really predict. There's a variety of ways to make the game better, and to draw bigger crowds. Ark showed that pretty well, it took that game well over a year to develop into itself really and that's for a game with a huge amount of appeal for a variety of communities (PvE/RP/PvP/Unofficial/Modding). 

This game will, likely, never be as universally successful as Ark. It simply doesn't try to appeal to the sheer amount of players that Ark tried, and to some degree, succeeded in doing. 

This game can, and likely will, attempt to primarily appeal to the "Mega-tribe" groups and form a stable playerbase from them, as opposed to Ark, which attempted to appeal to everyone. Just because the population is lower then Ark, doesn't mean it isn't successful. It just means it's a niche game. There are many successful games out there that don't have 100k people playing them everyday.

 

I flame Wildcard plenty on just about everything. Including for/in this game. However, I do believe that they are more competent then a troll (Scorpianshawn) who posts threads every 3 hours about how the game sucks because he got wiped/lost everything. I also don't particularly subscribe to the belief that the games overall direction is a bad one (Appealing to mega-tribes and groups larger then 15). ATLAS/ARK/Wildcard/Grapeshot are notorious and well known for being so horrifically bad at executing upon a concept that, despite how good the original concept is, it's ruined by that execution. 

I agree with most of what you said. I don’t see scorpion as a troll. He is disgruntled but that is because the dev company made him that way. Everything he has a problem with, I do as well.

i do see them appealing to the Megas just as you said. That is one of my main problems with them. Yes, if I look at a business standpoint they aren’t making the right decision. For their reputation though, they are making a very bad one.

eventually the streamers will move on to the next big game and all they will he left with is a bunch of angry players. That part is easy to predict.

they strive to be way bigger than their potential could ever get them. I have said it multiple times. Jeremy is the main problem with everything. He is the biggest hype maker I have ever seen. He is the reason for the outrage, disappointment, or disgust. 

Anyways man, it’s cool that we have a differing opinion, even though we disagree on some things we can agree on others.

atlas is slowly nearing the biggest dive that ark ever had and that one was well into development. Let’s not bother with numbers though. That always seems to start a fight instead of an argument.

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6 minutes ago, Ellentro said:

Denial about what?

The only thing I reject is your opinion that the game is dying because you got wiped and lost your schooner and that the only way to save it is to make it so solo players can beat mega-tribes. 

I think the game is dying because Wildcard is incompetent. Not because you got wiped. 

How did I get wiped again because im on pve fool!

You just keep making shit up its funny

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3 minutes ago, Pax said:

You paid for a DLC pack ... Same as i did.. You got your DLCs.  SC, Ab and Ext.  Where does that pack say your entitled to everything Wildcard ever makes for 50$

It was going to be more of a conversion type like primitive plus. 

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9 minutes ago, Pax said:

You paid for a DLC pack ... Same as i did.. You got your DLCs.  SC, Ab and Ext.  Where does that pack say your entitled to everything Wildcard ever makes for 50$

Its a ARK DLC I all read paid for Ark DLCs

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13 minutes ago, Realist said:

I agree with most of what you said. I don’t see scorpion as a troll. He is disgruntled but that is because the dev company made him that way. Everything he has a problem with, I do as well.

i do see them appealing to the Megas just as you said. That is one of my main problems with them. Yes, if I look at a business standpoint they aren’t making the right decision. For their reputation though, they are making a very bad one.

eventually the streamers will move on to the next big game and all they will he left with is a bunch of angry players. That part is easy to predict.

they strive to be way bigger than their potential could ever get them. I have said it multiple times. Jeremy is the main problem with everything. He is the biggest hype maker I have ever seen. He is the reason for the outrage, disappointment, or disgust. 

Anyways man, it’s cool that we have a differing opinion, even though we disagree on some things we can agree on others.

atlas is slowly nearing the biggest dive that ark ever had and that one was well into development. Let’s not bother with numbers though. That always seems to start a fight instead of an argument.

I only really see Scorpion as a troll because of how he acts, thinks and speaks. For instance, the reason he thinks the game is broken is because some chinese group sunk his schooner and sent him back to freeport. He fundamentally thinks that he should have been able to outplay them, and blames the game for enabling groups over solo players, and has put forward a variety of silly suggestions (Like making people take 3x damage if there's more then 4 people in a tribe together). He also frequently cites sources and events that are objectively wrong (IE citing Ark Small Tribes as a "Success" despite the fact that it had less people playing it within a week then Legacy did, this latest statistics citation). He does share some views of the game that I agree with, however I don't necessarily agree with the process that lead him to think that way, because half of his logic doesn't exist and the other half is fatally flawed. 

As for them appealing to Megas. Yes, I can see both sides. Personally, as a person in a Mega, I believe that it can be successful. Niche, but I enjoy being a part of a large group accomplishing large goals. Business wise? Perhaps it isn't the best choice, however that doesn't mean it's inherently a bad one. A good choice is starting a BR clone and milking that genre. You can enjoy a fair amount of success by making games for a niche, it's simply risky. 

Most games are left with "Angry players" in the end because those angry players are usually the most passionate part of the community. It takes a fair amount of emotional investment in a game (Which is mirrored by time investment) to generate anger in a group. 

 

Arguments and debates are always the best part of discussions because it's usually the only way to change entrenched beliefs and to explore your own. I find myself agreeing with you on more then a lot, and most of what you say is, overall, sound. I simply disagree that the premise that the reason this game is diving in numbers is because of the game catering to large tribes, rather it's simply because Wildcard does not possess the talent to make a successful game out of this niche genre. 

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10 minutes ago, Scorpionshawn said:

How did I get wiped again because im on pve fool!

You just keep making shit up its funny

I'm not really surprised to hear that you gave up on PvP. To be quite honest, I'm surprised that you play the game at all

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I think a major reason that everyone is quitting are the big performance issues. I connect to official server and get 250 ping with only 45 players on the tile... wtf.

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3 minutes ago, Mega said:

I think a major reason that everyone is quitting are the big performance issues. I connect to official server and get 250 ping with only 45 players on the tile... wtf.

Not to mention the sea battles when there's more then 4 ships sailing in your tile :rofl:

 

Nothing like making a 5 mythical sail galleon, sailing it into a big fight, then watching your tribe mates jumping off the boat and out-swimming her at 45% load. 

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23 minutes ago, Ellentro said:

I only really see Scorpion as a troll because of how he acts, thinks and speaks. For instance, the reason he thinks the game is broken is because some chinese group sunk his schooner and sent him back to freeport. He fundamentally thinks that he should have been able to outplay them, and blames the game for enabling groups over solo players, and has put forward a variety of silly suggestions (Like making people take 3x damage if there's more then 4 people in a tribe together). He also frequently cites sources and events that are objectively wrong (IE citing Ark Small Tribes as a "Success" despite the fact that it had less people playing it within a week then Legacy did, this latest statistics citation). He does share some views of the game that I agree with, however I don't necessarily agree with the process that lead him to think that way, because half of his logic doesn't exist and the other half is fatally flawed. 

As for them appealing to Megas. Yes, I can see both sides. Personally, as a person in a Mega, I believe that it can be successful. Niche, but I enjoy being a part of a large group accomplishing large goals. Business wise? Perhaps it isn't the best choice, however that doesn't mean it's inherently a bad one. A good choice is starting a BR clone and milking that genre. You can enjoy a fair amount of success by making games for a niche, it's simply risky. 

Most games are left with "Angry players" in the end because those angry players are usually the most passionate part of the community. It takes a fair amount of emotional investment in a game (Which is mirrored by time investment) to generate anger in a group. 

 

Arguments and debates are always the best part of discussions because it's usually the only way to change entrenched beliefs and to explore your own. I find myself agreeing with you on more then a lot, and most of what you say is, overall, sound. I simply disagree that the premise that the reason this game is diving in numbers is because of the game catering to large tribes, rather it's simply because Wildcard does not possess the talent to make a successful game out of this niche genre. 

This guy rofl still keeps saying i lost my ship to the chines...

I dont play on PVP and never once lost a ship to anyone not even hackers but what ever

Its clear he is a liar and I dont waste time trying to tear down other people posting because I have facts. 

And it must hurt him when he cant stop lying rofl

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1 minute ago, Scorpionshawn said:

This guy rofl still keeps saying i lost my ship to the chines...

I dont play on PVP and never once lost a ship to anyone not even hackers but what ever

Its clear he is a liar and I dont waste time trying to tear down other people posting because I have facts. 

And it must hurt him when he cant stop lying rofl

Pointing out the gaping holes in your logic doesn't hurt me at all.

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OOOOOOoooo I get it ELLENTRO keeps saying that my ship was sunk by the chines because it happen to her like she is reflecting her lose back toward me to feel better about herself.

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Just now, Scorpionshawn said:

OOOOOOoooo I get it ELLENTRO keeps saying that my ship was sunk by the chines because it happen to her like she is reflecting her lose back toward me to feel better about herself.

*Him

but no. The only reason I say that is it was what you were spamming on the forums like day 3 of the game release before it got deleted. 

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On 1/24/2019 at 7:13 AM, Forb Hidden said:

Ich wäre gerne für einen Tag lang eine Fliege im dev Studio. Nur um zu sehen, ob die Jungs und mädels da auch nur einmal über uns bauerntölpel sprechen. Machen sich die Entwickler überhaupt Gedanken über die ganzen Reviews oder ziehen sie ihr Ding nur stur durch, weil sie selber am besten über ihren Mist Bescheid wissen? 

Kaum Transparenz, kaum informationsfluss und erst recht keine ansprechpersonen. Höchstens dieses scheinbar tote Forum hier. 

Totes Forum.   Thread werden nicht gelöscht, mega viel Mist in 200-facher Ausführung und keine putzkollonne.

Man könnte hier sicher sogar rassistisches gut, Pornos oder brutalste Gewalt zeigen und die würden dies vier Wochen lang nicht peilen. Jedenfalls hab ich das Gefühl. 

Schaue jeden Tag ins Forum hier und lese mir viel durch. Aber gewartet wird da kaum. Auch antworten vom Studio kommen kaum bis keine. Also wieso überhaupt noch ins Forum schreiben, wenn es eh keiner liest? 

ich verstehe zwar deinen frust, aber was hat das mit dem eigentlichen thema zu tun ?

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3 hours ago, Mega said:

I think a major reason that everyone is quitting are the big performance issues. I connect to official server and get 250 ping with only 45 players on the tile... wtf.

I quit official because of both cheaters and the craptastic performance issues. Not worth the stress, then to start all over in the morning farming hardcore mats, rinse and repeat on pvp is boring....

I play less pvp and more pve even on PVP servers?? is that wrong

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7 hours ago, Ellentro said:

Atlas was created for the mega-tribe PvP groups that comprise the vast majority of the PvP player base.

I don't think you have actual numbers and neither do i, but from what i've seen most players are actually either in small groups or just struggling solo even on PvP servers. Megas just make more noise. Just like eve.

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1 hour ago, LaiTash said:

I don't think you have actual numbers and neither do i, but from what i've seen most players are actually either in small groups or just struggling solo even on PvP servers. Megas just make more noise. Just like eve.

Who doesn't have actual numbers? Because mine come straight from steam charts 

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Just now, Scorpionshawn said:

Who doesn't have actual numbers? Because mine come straight from steam charts 

Ahem, i wasn't even responding to you...

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On 1/24/2019 at 6:40 AM, Scorpionshawn said:

No one wanted to see this but with the trolls on here telling people to drink the cool aid and the game is EA and everything is fine day shows in the numbers everyday that its not fine. The bad reparation the game is getting from youtubers and no new players joining in just old ones leaving as well as some hardcore supporters. One would think the Devs would STOP and THINK...

Maybe we need to take a step back look at what people are saying other than the fan boys and see how we can get wind in our sails again. Unless they truly  happy with the players they roped in and dont care about maybe hitting the big sales and becoming a big company. It will all just feel like a half hearted cash grab to many people as if Atlas was a after thought of a game and it will end up just like "Dark and Light" another wild card off shoot that I myself was super hyped as well as alot of other Ark players till we saw the bad direction of the game.

BTW people post concerns and complaints because they care enough to voice an oppion hoping that things will change... its the people that up and quit with out a word that could careless, chew on that!

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Your right man. Games Ded and broken. I really loved your post. I think it will accomplish absolutely nothing to make the game better since you didn't include and solutions or suggestions. You should play something fun like minecraft. The forums for this game are more entertaining then the actual game. We should jsut boycott discney and vote trump next election. Trump will help us build that wall. Its clear these numbers mean something. Maybe they mean you should play another game? Maybe if we keep crying on the forums nothing will happen. Lets make another thread tearing down the game so people realize just how much we don't like the game. That will show them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sarcasm.......

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I have made many post about changes that could fix this game and I also have made post that show facts the game is failing. If i was just making post saying how great the game is and that its thriving then I would be drinking on that kool aid and yall would be praising me...

but the truth as you see my dear lady, hurts!

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