Scorpionshawn 134 Posted January 24, 2019 No one wanted to see this but with the trolls on here telling people to drink the cool aid and the game is EA and everything is fine day shows in the numbers everyday that its not fine. The bad reparation the game is getting from youtubers and no new players joining in just old ones leaving as well as some hardcore supporters. One would think the Devs would STOP and THINK... Maybe we need to take a step back look at what people are saying other than the fan boys and see how we can get wind in our sails again. Unless they truly happy with the players they roped in and dont care about maybe hitting the big sales and becoming a big company. It will all just feel like a half hearted cash grab to many people as if Atlas was a after thought of a game and it will end up just like "Dark and Light" another wild card off shoot that I myself was super hyped as well as alot of other Ark players till we saw the bad direction of the game. BTW people post concerns and complaints because they care enough to voice an oppion hoping that things will change... its the people that up and quit with out a word that could careless, chew on that! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caldrin 55 Posted January 24, 2019 It's normal for early access titles to lose a lot of players. It will settle down to the people Woh are ok testing EA games and are enjoying the game. People will come back for large updates and leave again after. Nearly all EA games are like this. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stimpack 4 Posted January 24, 2019 the Problem is, that there is no Option for a "come back for an updaten", because there will be no land to settle 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Olthoi 65 Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Of course they are, I havent been able to log in for days, I think today is day 4. It took them 2 days to even acknowledge there was an issue, even then it was a post nobody saw on Discord. Can you imagine when they finally get it fixed people logging in to find their claims taken and/or ships gone? Thats insta-quit for most. It would be spirit crushing. The truly insane part is, I AM REALLY ENJOYING THE GAME. Im not one of those salty people who complain because of some dynamic or mechanic isn't to their liking, but I also just want to play and would seriously consider quitting if I lose my shit and needed to start over. Edited January 24, 2019 by Olthoi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackFlint 41 Posted January 24, 2019 If they do wipe there will be 5k players online. That's a fair number for this game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpionshawn 134 Posted January 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Caldrin said: It's normal for early access titles to lose a lot of players. It will settle down to the people Woh are ok testing EA games and are enjoying the game. People will come back for large updates and leave again after. Nearly all EA games are like this. yes drink up! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Forb Hidden 134 Posted January 24, 2019 Ich wäre gerne für einen Tag lang eine Fliege im dev Studio. Nur um zu sehen, ob die Jungs und mädels da auch nur einmal über uns bauerntölpel sprechen. Machen sich die Entwickler überhaupt Gedanken über die ganzen Reviews oder ziehen sie ihr Ding nur stur durch, weil sie selber am besten über ihren Mist Bescheid wissen? Kaum Transparenz, kaum informationsfluss und erst recht keine ansprechpersonen. Höchstens dieses scheinbar tote Forum hier. Totes Forum. Thread werden nicht gelöscht, mega viel Mist in 200-facher Ausführung und keine putzkollonne. Man könnte hier sicher sogar rassistisches gut, Pornos oder brutalste Gewalt zeigen und die würden dies vier Wochen lang nicht peilen. Jedenfalls hab ich das Gefühl. Schaue jeden Tag ins Forum hier und lese mir viel durch. Aber gewartet wird da kaum. Auch antworten vom Studio kommen kaum bis keine. Also wieso überhaupt noch ins Forum schreiben, wenn es eh keiner liest? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpionshawn 134 Posted January 24, 2019 The all time peek numbers for both Conan and Atlas are so simalur and both peeked in EA. Players were warning the conan dev team and they didnt listen at all, only listen to the fan boys who drank up that cool aid! Now that game is dead what a year after launch! We also heard all along that conan would get better because it was EA drink drink drink rofl less than 4k people play that game on a daily bases now and no new buyers https://steamcharts.com/app/440900 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noquarter 9 Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Caldrin said: It's normal for early access titles to lose a lot of players. It will settle down to the people Woh are ok testing EA games and are enjoying the game. People will come back for large updates and leave again after. Nearly all EA games are like this. Dark and Light currently 303 people playing. I wonder exactly what devs were part of Dark and Light and if those devs are part of atlas. I see the exact same path, terrible, terrible decision making. Both offshoots of Ark.... To me both have one thing in common. They focus on balancing before bugs. Their balancing generally has a negative effect on EA testing. You can't make drastic changes constantly and expect to keep 50k players. No matter if you "turn it back" later with another patch, once people quit only a few come back at a time for big updates. And each time, it's less and less. Until you get Dark and Light 303 current players. Lemme put it like this, The minute they took away all the skill points in one of the early patches. I knew the path this game was going right then and there. It showed their thought process. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charles U Farley 46 Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Forb Hidden said: Ich wäre gerne für einen Tag lang eine Fliege im dev Studio. Nur um zu sehen, ob die Jungs und mädels da auch nur einmal über uns bauerntölpel sprechen. Machen sich die Entwickler überhaupt Gedanken über die ganzen Reviews oder ziehen sie ihr Ding nur stur durch, weil sie selber am besten über ihren Mist Bescheid wissen? Kaum Transparenz, kaum informationsfluss und erst recht keine ansprechpersonen. Höchstens dieses scheinbar tote Forum hier. Totes Forum. Thread werden nicht gelöscht, mega viel Mist in 200-facher Ausführung und keine putzkollonne. Man könnte hier sicher sogar rassistisches gut, Pornos oder brutalste Gewalt zeigen und die würden dies vier Wochen lang nicht peilen. Jedenfalls hab ich das Gefühl. Schaue jeden Tag ins Forum hier und lese mir viel durch. Aber gewartet wird da kaum. Auch antworten vom Studio kommen kaum bis keine. Also wieso überhaupt noch ins Forum schreiben, wenn es eh keiner liest? Ich gebe dir so verdammt recht mit allem. Atlas ist als hätte man einen Sportwagen in der Garage, aber keinen Sprit im Tank. Naja, eigentlich weit schlimmer als das. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpionshawn 134 Posted January 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, Forb Hidden said: Ich wäre gerne für einen Tag lang eine Fliege im dev Studio. Nur um zu sehen, ob die Jungs und mädels da auch nur einmal über uns bauerntölpel sprechen. Machen sich die Entwickler überhaupt Gedanken über die ganzen Reviews oder ziehen sie ihr Ding nur stur durch, weil sie selber am besten über ihren Mist Bescheid wissen? Kaum Transparenz, kaum informationsfluss und erst recht keine ansprechpersonen. Höchstens dieses scheinbar tote Forum hier. Totes Forum. Thread werden nicht gelöscht, mega viel Mist in 200-facher Ausführung und keine putzkollonne. Man könnte hier sicher sogar rassistisches gut, Pornos oder brutalste Gewalt zeigen und die würden dies vier Wochen lang nicht peilen. Jedenfalls hab ich das Gefühl. Schaue jeden Tag ins Forum hier und lese mir viel durch. Aber gewartet wird da kaum. Auch antworten vom Studio kommen kaum bis keine. Also wieso überhaupt noch ins Forum schreiben, wenn es eh keiner liest? English would help us understand what your saying 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Charles U Farley 46 Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Just now, Scorpionshawn said: English would help us understand what your saying He is writing about the ignorance of the developers and a dead forum cause they ignore it anyway. Edited January 24, 2019 by Charles U Farley 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tateybread 59 Posted January 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, noquarter said: Dark and Light currently 303 people playing. I wonder exactly what devs were part of Dark and Light and if those devs are part of atlas. I see the exact same path, terrible, terrible decision making. Both offshoots of Ark.... To me both have one thing in common. They focus on balancing before bugs. Their balancing generally has a negative effect on EA testing. You can't make drastic changes constantly and expect to keep 50k players. No matter if you "turn it back" later with another patch, once people quit only a few come back at a time for big updates. And each time, it's less and less. Until you get Dark and Light 303 current players. Lemme put it like this, The minute they took away all the skill points in one of the early patches. I knew the path this game was going right then and there. It showed their thought process. Quote Dark and Light currently 303 people playing. I wonder exactly what devs were part of Dark and Light and if those devs are part of atlas. I'm one of the 303. It was confirmed on the DnL official discord that some people working on DnL are now working at Grapeshot on Atlas... One of the people who would post updates, Stormborn, wasn't heard from awhile, someone noticed she was on the Atlas discord now, they posted the other day to confirm she had moved... given the slow pace of progress on DnL and the cluster fuck currently going on in with Atlas, can't say im surprised. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpionshawn 134 Posted January 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, tateybread said: I'm one of the 303. It was confirmed on the DnL official discord that some people working on DnL are now working at Grapeshot on Atlas... One of the people who would post updates, Stormborn, wasn't heard from awhile, someone noticed she was on the Atlas discord now, they posted the other day to confirm she had moved... given the slow pace of progress on DnL and the cluster fuck currently going on in with Atlas, can't say im surprised. We were told Dark and light was Ark with magic and that game got a ton of buzz and died now we are told Atlas is Ark with pirates and it had a lot of buzz and now dying looks like they never learn. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tateybread 59 Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Scorpionshawn said: We were told Dark and light was Ark with magic and that game got a ton of buzz and died now we are told Atlas is Ark with pirates and it had a lot of buzz and now dying looks like they never learn. We were also told PixArk would be Ark with Voxels... and it has been abandoned too...definition of insanity: “doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.” Quote 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpionshawn 134 Posted January 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, tateybread said: We were also told PixArk would be Ark with Voxels... and it has been abandoned too...definition of insanity: “doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.” Yup its like they really care how Ark is doing and just keep making these off shoot games from it for some quick cash grabs 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lynx 92 Posted January 24, 2019 57 minutes ago, Stimpack said: the Problem is, that there is no Option for a "come back for an updaten", because there will be no land to settle Agreed. This I why I keep saying add SP mode and true LAN server support, like Ark. This would help the population stability. People who aren't up for all the exploits on official could still play the game in single player mode. Also, major updates need to come with WIPES. This is the only way to bring new and returning players in. Also, supports adding SP mode, give new and returning players a testing environment to test out character and ship builds and hone their skills. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tateybread 59 Posted January 24, 2019 One of the reasons im not enthused by single player and unofficial servers is that by design, those modes can't capture the feel of the full game... a 2x2 square private cluster can't replicate the official servers scope... it's too expensive. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lynx 92 Posted January 24, 2019 1 minute ago, tateybread said: One of the reasons im not enthused by single player and unofficial servers is that by design, those modes can't capture the feel of the full game... a 2x2 square private cluster can't replicate the official servers scope... it's too expensive. There is already a 3rd party program that switches servers for a full map experience on a normal PC. Sadly, Atlas servers will not function over LAN and my mobile isp dosen't work for port forwarding a internet server. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackFlint 41 Posted January 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lynx said: Agreed. This I why I keep saying add SP mode and true LAN server support, like Ark. This would help the population stability. People who aren't up for all the exploits on official could still play the game in single player mode. Also, major updates need to come with WIPES. This is the only way to bring new and returning players in. Also, supports adding SP mode, give new and returning players a testing environment to test out character and ship builds and hone their skills. Constant wipes will decrease player base to 500 testers. And maybe they will be happy with server performance Do you feel +5% server performance by the way? ROFL 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lynx 92 Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, BlackFlint said: Constant wipes will decrease player base to 500 testers. And maybe they will be happy with server performance Not wiping the servers will lead to a slowly degrading players base with NO influx of new and returning players. Plus EA wipes help reinforce the idea of a wipe for launch. Who would want to buy a $60 game with no fresh servers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
noquarter 9 Posted January 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, tateybread said: One of the reasons im not enthused by single player and unofficial servers is that by design, those modes can't capture the feel of the full game... a 2x2 square private cluster can't replicate the official servers scope... it's too expensive. single player shouldn't be limited in the same way multiplayer is, your computer doesn't been the entire map at the same time in single player. It should just load up the one you're in and surrounding nodes. When you move, it loads new nodes. This is how huge map single player works. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tateybread 59 Posted January 24, 2019 Just now, noquarter said: single player shouldn't be limited in the same way multiplayer is, your computer doesn't been the entire map at the same time in single player. It should just load up the one you're in and surrounding nodes. When you move, it loads new nodes. This is how huge map single player works. Well, if they add it, or it becomes intuitive to set up ourselves, then it's something I'd definately give a go. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coggage 239 Posted January 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, tateybread said: One of the reasons im not enthused by single player and unofficial servers is that by design, those modes can't capture the feel of the full game... a 2x2 square private cluster can't replicate the official servers scope... it's too expensive. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackFlint 41 Posted January 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lynx said: Not wiping the servers will lead to a slowly degrading players base with NO influx of new and returning players. Plus EA wipes help reinforce the idea of a wipe for launch. Who would want to buy a $60 game with no fresh servers. Maybe before launch they do wipe, but for EA time wipe is a catastrophe. Most of my guildmates are still playing because they have base, ships and tames. A lot of work was done and no one wants to start over again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites