Badwolf 3 Posted January 21, 2019 You guys made bows absolutely fucking worthless 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellentro 107 Posted January 21, 2019 It's actually hilarious at the moment. Alpha Tigers, Elephants and Crocs are nigh on unkillable. Flame arrows are actually worthless (You will do a max of 33 damage to a player with it, and that's assuming they stand in the fire for its entire duration). The perk for bow is actually impossible to land because 3 second windups are memes outside PvE. Guns are worthless, and in PvP melee weapons are useless because you can't catch and kill anyone. If someone is in plate, they're basically tanks, and if they have medic, they're legit almost invincible. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightstrasza 137 Posted January 21, 2019 Use balista, pure 500 dmg. Have bears, horses etc to carry balistas. Could also mount maybe a swivel gun if possible and use liquid flame or feed someone with grape shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vhalkyrie 38 Posted January 21, 2019 Yeah, the flame arrow nerf is awful. With bow breakage, and the nerf, alphas are invincible again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IsilithTehroth 23 Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vhalkyrie said: Yeah, the flame arrow nerf is awful. With bow breakage, and the nerf, alphas are invincible again. Lazy solo players that don't want to have to survive in a survival game. It should take at least 50 people to kill an alpha. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeadMeat 22 Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, IsilithTehroth said: Lazy solo players that don't want to have to survive in a survival game. It should take at least 50 people to kill an alpha. Give it a rest, it's got shyte to do with 'lazy solo' players and everything to do with how farked up theirs 'mobs' and combat system is. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vhalkyrie 38 Posted January 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, IsilithTehroth said: Lazy solo players that don't want to have to survive in a survival game. It should take at least 50 people to kill an alpha. Sure, great. When they have alphas down to a reasonably rare level. Show us your vids of how your 50 peeps kill an alpha tiger. I await with buttered popcorn. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightstrasza 137 Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vhalkyrie said: Sure, great. When they have alphas down to a reasonably rare level. Show us your vids of how your 50 peeps kill an alpha tiger. I await with buttered popcorn. Never used fire arrows and killed many alphas, however, killed them thro stone walls or in water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IsilithTehroth 23 Posted January 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vhalkyrie said: Sure, great. When they have alphas down to a reasonably rare level. Show us your vids of how your 50 peeps kill an alpha tiger. I await with buttered popcorn. We just took 140 players to kill the krakken, but we could have used 150 because it took 3 hours. The only ones complaining are the solo players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vhalkyrie 38 Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Nightstrasza said: Never used fire arrows and killed many alphas, however, killed them thro stone walls or in water. Water is key for most, except crocs. 2 minutes ago, IsilithTehroth said: We just took 140 players to kill the krakken, but we could have used 150 because it took 3 hours. The only ones complaining are the solo players. Congrats! The fire arrows were nerfed too much. My opinion. If that's complaining, so be it. Anyway, please do show us the legit way. Popcorn is still here for the sharing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IsilithTehroth 23 Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Vhalkyrie said: Water is key for most, except crocs. Congrats! The fire arrows were nerfed too much. My opinion. If that's complaining, so be it. Anyway, please do show us the legit way. Popcorn is still here for the sharing. Please pull your dick out of the hole on the bottom of the popcorn container first before sharing. Edited January 21, 2019 by IsilithTehroth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coldpaws 13 Posted January 21, 2019 the bows work fine...killed about 10 people with it in pvp last night, aim for the head, not hard, also its not hard to hit people either with guns, like others said you need a team to kill stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vhalkyrie 38 Posted January 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, Coldpaws said: the bows work fine...killed about 10 people with it in pvp last night, aim for the head, not hard, also its not hard to hit people either with guns, like others said you need a team to kill stuff Have you tried the fire arrow recently? Bow works fine with normal arrows. Try it with normal arrow versus fire arrow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coldpaws 13 Posted January 21, 2019 I used both last night most of my kills was with the fire arrows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vhalkyrie 38 Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Kudos to you then. The rate at which the bow breaks with the fire arrow didn't work out so great with me. My buddy and I were hunting treasure and it broke too rapidly. Can't speak for pvp, but for mobs the fire arrows do less damage than normal arrows. I've abandoned fire arrows for pve mobs. Edited January 21, 2019 by Vhalkyrie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tanchyon 8 Posted January 21, 2019 1 hour ago, IsilithTehroth said: We just took 140 players to kill the krakken, but we could have used 150 because it took 3 hours. The only ones complaining are the solo players. Sure you did buttercup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Godwinson 2 Posted January 21, 2019 Bows are not worthless they are just more realistic now. Before bows & fire arrows were way too over powered. Now guns finally have a purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caldrin 55 Posted January 21, 2019 Can please everyone... Before the patch everyone complaining that flame arrows were the only way to PvP because they were basically insta kill and now after they nerfed them everyone complains hahahaha. Just use fire arms instead.. sure alpha mobs suck but it's easy enough to kill them from a distance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tobias 24 Posted January 21, 2019 6 hours ago, IsilithTehroth said: Lazy solo players that don't want to have to survive in a survival game. It should take at least 50 people to kill an alpha. If that were the case there should only be a single alpha in the entire region at any given time and must wait 7 game days to have a chance to spawn another... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shintai 117 Posted January 21, 2019 Lion/Tiger/Wolf Alphas are the only problems. Rest either isn't extreme aggro or can be handled movement wise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tezcatlipoca 76 Posted January 21, 2019 6 hours ago, IsilithTehroth said: Lazy solo players that don't want to have to survive in a survival game. It should take at least 50 people to kill an alpha. If you cant kill an enemy who is hunting you, so it isnt a survival game. Your task to survice requires an option to do so. For now, there is no personal weapon to defend yourself against an alpha. To hide cowardly in the crowd may be a successful option to kill one alpha but has nothing to do with survival. Its just the old bored raid shit like in wow. *ZZzzzz* Survival means assessing the situation correctly and acting properly. Surviving does not mean moving through the game in a brain-dead horde and killing everything by player stacking. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tezcatlipoca 76 Posted January 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Coldpaws said: the bows work fine...killed about 10 people with it in pvp last night, aim for the head, not hard, also its not hard to hit people either with guns, like others said you need a team to kill stuff PVP != PVE: players are moving not so fast and are not jumping over the map on laggy servers / maps. If you not believe, go on official server and try this with a ping of round about 130. Aim a slow player or slow encounters are not the intentional problem. 1 hour ago, Harold Godwinson said: Bows are not worthless they are just more realistic now. Before bows & fire arrows were way too over powered. Now guns finally have a purpose. You are right, but missed the point. Guns are underpowerd for that pve content. just keep in mind, we are not talking about golden age ruins. How many bullets and time will you waste on a worthless alpha? I think pve need to get closer to pvp in numbers or they will never get a balanced game. Two conflicting rules can not harmonize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Godwinson 2 Posted January 21, 2019 fair enough even with 5+ people taking down an Alpha is hard, yet with fire arrows it was too easy. Alphas are supposed to be hard to kill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pygmy 20 Posted January 21, 2019 7 hours ago, IsilithTehroth said: We just took 140 players to kill the krakken, but we could have used 150 because it took 3 hours. The only ones complaining are the solo players. Lol 3 hours? we were 50 took almost 90 minutes and we slacked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites