Save island space

[peterlng 0]

Just an idea, but could the claim flags be reduced down to 2 per player, as i have seen a 2 person company with 14 flags and all set to NO BUILD, what is that doing apart from stopping others building and leaving the game as cant do anything, With 2 per player, a large company can have an area equal to the amount of players,

[bandhelix 1]

It's two lazy people who managed to sail away from the starter areas on day 1 / 2, get to an area with claiming and slapped down all the flags they could to a) troll the rest of the community by not allowing anyone else claim space b) now that taxation has come in keep areas closed off so people can't build to block anything but they get all the taxation from resource farming. 

Personally I'm starting to dislike the claiming altogether and think they should have opted from singular island claim with the company or claimant being forced to sell designated plots for gold. This would generate an in game economy but also eventually end up with island plots being fairly owned throughout the player-base. If you fair to upkeep your land however or log in then the plot can be purchased by others looking to do so...or something along those lines. 

It would also save a map full of big ugly red circles distracting from the map artwork.

[RyuujinZERO 122]

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It's two lazy people who managed to sail away from the starter areas on day 1 / 2, get to an area with claiming and slapped down all the flags they could to a) troll the rest of the community by not allowing anyone else claim space b) now that taxation has come in keep areas closed off so people can't build to block anything but they get all the taxation from resource farming. 

There's a lot of misinformation, or rather, creative misinterpretation, going on here

 

• Claim flags (Currently) only retain their upkeep timer for a few days after initial placement. This means the owners have to pull up and re-place each flag (A process that takes ~10 minutes per flag) if they want to keep the flag upkeep buff active. 
• Once the upkeep buff has fallen off, players have to actively return to contest if someone tries take it from them while online, and, if someone tries contest while offline, they need to make sure they are sleeping somewhere within that claim, or they'll likely have lost it by the time they log back in.
• I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure banks only cover the server in which they are placed.

 

Basically, a couple of guys on a raft, on day one running across the map naked making raspberry noises while waving their hands in the air, throwing down flags left and right, are not the guys who still control the territory at this stage of the game. Such a strategy would result in a huge area of land that required constant, tedious maintenance to retain control over (Systematically returning to replace flags, emptying banks from each server separately).

Our company had 4 people originally and we managed to get ourselves a couple of claims on day 2 in PvE NA. We expanded that to 6 claims over the next week as we realised most our adjoining claims WERE placed down by some mega-guild goobers who'd done just what you described, and they had no reasonable way of enforcing their claim against ours.

However, we quickly realized our OWN over-claiming had now become nigh impossible to properly protect either (It didn't overlap with our actual physical base where we slept), and we lost about half our territory to a nearby Taiwanese company at night. Eventually we found another island in a nearby zone (Now a full *2 weeks* after launch), that had a bunch of claims on it, but no structures. So we abandoned our old claims to an ally, then contested and took the entire small archipelago island and this time, made sure our claim flags were structured in a rosetta so they all overlapped around our actual base/outposts, and we could actually properly secure it while we were offline.

I have a few points here:

• 1 or 2 people cannot hold large tracts of land by themselves for an extended period without putting in some serious effort to retain it.
• Careful planning is required to actually create and hold down a modest space beyond a single claim.
• There is still LOADS of land out there to settled, that people aren't using, because they see a flag and walk away/go complain on the forums. Take the flag down and put your own up, if the owner cares he'll come contest it, or he'd have secured it!.

Well, there's always 'That guy' in the latter scenario, who didn't secure their flag, but comes tell you a day or two later that he did in fact care, and he's very upset with you and/or accuses you of hacking somehow because you 'stole his land'. But, seriously, if you can't secure a flag while offline then you know you are over-claiming.

Edited January 14, 2019 by RyuujinZERO

[cloWandering 21]

13 minutes ago, RyuujinZERO said:

Claim flags (Currently) only retain their upkeep timer for a few days after initial placement. This means the owners have to pull up and re-place each flag (A process that takes ~10 minutes per flag) if they want to keep the flag upkeep buff active. 

Is this true?  I was under the impression that a recent update made it so that the upkeep was reset to 3 days anytime someone from the owner company was online and present in the claim.  There is so much confusion around claiming right now, it is good to have things spelled out like this, I just want to double check that this is how it is supposed to work right now.  Has anyone tested this by having someone from a different company look at their older claim flags while the company is out of the claim?  I think last time we tested like this, it was starting at what would be 4-ish hours and then counting down to negative numbers until it reached around 3 days.  This may have been a couple update patches ago.  Thanks for the current info!