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1. Explosive barrels and morters are the best for seige, large cannon on tamed mount carrage is pretty powerful too,

2. all but cannon balls/morter shot are useless in common artilery weapons,

3. Grenades are anti-personel and anti morter/cannon

4. baslista is for whaling tbh and is great for it.

5. swivel + greek fire = very powerful flame sloops. *can reck ships fast. oil jars and fire can do that too

 

the building on the ships can be used as armor and extend the reach of cannons for boats and it does work.

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Ahhh, thanks, did not know about ballista = whale but it makes a (silly) sort of sense in a game where pirates covet gems not for the cash value, but their explosive properties XD

Still wondering in what scenario a catapult means anything but stupid waste.

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23 minutes ago, Migolcow said:

Ahhh, thanks, did not know about ballista = whale but it makes a (silly) sort of sense in a game where pirates covet gems not for the cash value, but their explosive properties XD

Still wondering in what scenario a catapult means anything but stupid waste.

Balista is a waste too, other than whales it does laughable dmg, the projectile is slow, cost alot of iron, the balista itself costs like 4x more alloy or something than a cannon. That is not a poor mans cannon, that is nothing.

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26 minutes ago, Migolcow said:

Ahhh, thanks, did not know about ballista = whale but it makes a (silly) sort of sense in a game where pirates covet gems not for the cash value, but their explosive properties XD

Still wondering in what scenario a catapult means anything but stupid waste.

 

1 minute ago, Nightstrasza said:

Balista is a waste too, other than whales it does laughable dmg, the projectile is slow, cost alot of iron, the balista itself costs like 4x more alloy or something than a cannon. That is not a poor mans cannon, that is nothing.

Indeed, ballista is for farming whales. Took one down with two ballista on a sloop. 1400 gold in whale's inventory. Pay for my two brig's crews for a couple days. 

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Just now, TheSzerdi said:

 

Indeed, ballista is for farming whales. Took one down with two ballista on a sloop. 1400 gold in whale's inventory. Pay for my two brig's crews for a couple days. 

Really..., is that realy so easy to kill a whale? how many bolts and how fast it went down?, would want to get a bunch of bolts and just respec bcs that perk is a total waste of 14 points otherwise.

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1 minute ago, Nightstrasza said:

Really..., is that realy so easy to kill a whale? how many bolts and how fast it went down?, would want to get a bunch of bolts and just respec bcs that perk is a total waste of 14 points otherwise.

Took us about 60 bolts, but we missed quite a few. Maybe 30 minutes to kill and harvest? Mostly maneuvering to get shots in without getting hit. Took a long time to find the damn thing though. See them everywhere until you actually want one. It was blue whale, haven't tried mean whale yet. 

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Just now, TheSzerdi said:

Took us about 60 bolts, but we missed quite a few. Maybe 30 minutes to kill and harvest? Mostly maneuvering to get shots in without getting hit. Took a long time to find the damn thing though. See them everywhere until you actually want one. It was blue whale, haven't tried mean whale yet. 

Don't know in what way they are different, all whales that seen... looked "whaly". And 30 minutes to kill, 60 bolts x 16 iron?, dodging?, well, guess not gonna take our schooner or a spin if we have to dodge an instakill, especialy that there's 30-50 SoDs in every grid surrounding islands so where to hide..., will just wait for one to go land mode and will stick into it few hundret of arrows.

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2 minutes ago, Nightstrasza said:

Don't know in what way they are different, all whales that seen... looked "whaly". And 30 minutes to kill, 60 bolts x 16 iron?, dodging?, well, guess not gonna take our schooner or a spin if we have to dodge an instakill, especialy that there's 30-50 SoDs in every grid surrounding islands so where to hide..., will just wait for one to go land mode and will stick into it few hundret of arrows.

Blue whale tail slaps the whole ship for about 600 damage to every plank. It's not too hard to dodge / outrun. Dunno about mean whale. 

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48 minutes ago, strawman said:

How much damage does the explosive barrel do to stone doors/walls/gates?

it varries depending on where its with it it.

 

9 hours ago, Migolcow said:

Ahhh, thanks, did not know about ballista = whale but it makes a (silly) sort of sense in a game where pirates covet gems not for the cash value, but their explosive properties XD

Still wondering in what scenario a catapult means anything but stupid waste.

whales give on death: gold, blubber and *discovery points for max levels so they get farmed now

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3 hours ago, Sketch said:

it varries depending on where its with it it.

 

whales give on death: gold, blubber and *discovery points for max levels so they get farmed now

They give points only once we think, then never again and gold is better from maps and much cheaper.

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4 minutes ago, Nightstrasza said:

They give points only once we think, then never again and gold is better from maps and much cheaper.

nope seen streams where players were getting tons a run (assume more then one whale), and ye gold is better via maps

but maps can be bugged, unaccessable on both pvp and pve so neither is better

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1 minute ago, Sketch said:

nope seen streams where players were getting tons a run, and ye gold is better via maps

We can get 50 points per whale everytime we kill it?, shouldn't that be caped?, atleast though seen that in v10 notes somewhere that we can only get 50 points once from a whale...

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5 minutes ago, Nightstrasza said:

We can get 50 points per whale everytime we kill it?, shouldn't that be caped?, atleast though seen that in v10 notes somewhere that we can only get 50 points once from a whale...

no idea, the tls were doing a few days ago and basicly get like 120+ per run from like 3-4 whales etc

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Updated the main post with current knowledge (and a couple spots I'm unsure of, pls chime in if you know).

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Does large cannon fit into large gunport?, or that's just a gunport but with 2x more health and is not realy that large.

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2 minutes ago, Nightstrasza said:

Does large cannon fit into large gunport?, or that's just a gunport but with 2x more health and is not realy that large.

No.

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swivel turret on a bear if you only have one is a ideal use case for canisters its a shit cannon but it allows you to be anti player oneshot machine and still be able to open bases while on a bear. without needing a 2nd bear incase you dont have enough people to fully man both bears.

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3 minutes ago, Pollapiedrix said:

Can we still put barrels on enemy ships?

nope, but you can fire them from medium cannons.

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