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Patch V515.17 - Armored Docks, Trade System and Barrel Updates

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2 hours ago, Muller said:

I’ve only just started playing this game I played ark for a long time so I’m used to the grind but the Ship prices are ridiculous it would Take me till this time next year to get gallon and then I would be Reluctant to take it into a fight in case I lost it love the game but too much grind not enough fun 

 

1 hour ago, Muller said:

My aim on this game would be to have a gallon and be a pirate sailing the oceans at the moment I’m spending all my time on land still only have sloop 😂

hehe quoting yourself is the best

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@Muller map gold is the way I prefer. We do maps with ship wrecks along the way. The better bears you have the better maps you can collect and as @eeeceee said you can pick up blue prints and some decent items too. I think whales are a decent pay out also.

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Glad to see barrels were changed... disappointed that ship gold cost was not modified. As a small company player, I uninstalled recently but am still following the patch notes. We gave it a try, but it is just too much of a drag to get a schooner, let alone a brigantine for us as adult gamers. Maybe next patch.. hoping, do miss the game. But do not miss the added (excessive) grind for gold in the early game.

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Freeport Vendor that Pays resources for Gold, would be just as effective in creating an economy as this new trade system. (with a lot less hassle)

It would create a balance by allowing anyone to earn a ship (including new players), if you have the freeport ship salesman charge gold for ships instead of resources. Not to mention all players could buy goods from other player shops (which already existed in the game) with the gold they earn from the new freeport vendor.

 And if it was about getting people to intercept trade, you can have an NPC ship (similar to SOD) go from the player's market, to the player's warehouse. Trade itself can be conducted within the player shop and this programmed NPC ship can transport the goods allowing others to intercept.

You can still achieve the goal of an economy/trade without  new complicated content (new markets, sea forts etc). They seem to be creating more problems and turning off players, than fixing problems and gaining more players.

Keep it simple!

 

 

 

 

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Holy mother Mary!

You guys actually addressed the Barrel Question?

Ty dev team! Disagree with a lot of what you guys change, but at least you ARE changing and doing something.

As long as Atlas looks like a Dow Jones stock chart trending upwards, that's all a player can ask for.

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Awesome, but if you want to protect ships with the armored docks go all the way and add a roof which is part of the structure. If its not a complete shell people will exploit it and sink ships inside armored docks with less effort than they should. For example by throwing chickens or materials from above onto the ship to sink it by overcrew or overweight.

I can agree with the other comments about gold costs, i dont want to play anymore because of the gold cost. It can only be played on private servers that hand out free gold to counter the gold cost for starters. Its no fun to sit around in landbases and wait for automated trade to actually be able to build and maintain a ship after many hours. Instead of moving players out on the sea it is even more landbased now to a point where players leave from waiting to reach sea content or get going again after a loss.

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10 minutes ago, Linea said:

Awesome, but if you want to protect ships with the armored docks go all the way and add a roof which is part of the structure. If its not a complete shell people will exploit it and sink ships inside armored docks with less effort than they should. For example by throwing chickens or materials from above onto the ship to sink it by overcrew or overweight.

I can agree with the other comments about gold costs, i dont want to play anymore because of the gold cost. It can only be played on private servers that hand out free gold to counter the gold cost for starters. Its no fun to sit around in landbases and wait for automated trade to actually be able to build and maintain a ship after many hours. Instead of moving players out on the sea it is even more landbased now to a point where players leave from waiting to reach sea content or get going again after a loss.

read the patch notes again, ships inside the armoured structure are immune to damage until after it is destroyed.

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The armored ship dock is a welcome sight, even for sp mode offline as SoTD have a tendency to get annoyingly and uncomfortably close to islands on occasion and there are so few safe coves on islands near freeport cells. Now lets just see if it can go a few patches without immediatly getting nerfed to oblivion.

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If you are in single player mode and you are worried about your stuff getting destroyed, why don't you turn off damage to structures?

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Devs, I can save you a lot of effort. 

Reduce company ship limits (1-3 per person). Make green anchored vessels immune to deal or receive dmg, or just cap it at .01% dmg if it has to have a value. Add a gold upkeep to ships like NPCs and it draws from the chest onboard. 

Its not a big deal, Sea of Thieves gives you a new ship every time yours sinks. There nothing wrong with me having to sleep on my boat and keep gold in it to keep it safe 100% when I'm parked.

Less lag, less effort, more friendly to solos and small groups.

Your welcome.

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5 hours ago, Vill777 said:

WHEN THERE WILL BE CONTENT FOR PVE ??? !!!!!

 Not to be that guy but why would they add to pve they just got done telling the na pve players to go pound sand by removing the na server only option for na players is a laggy conaction to the EU PVE server or play na pvp where there are players that love to pound sand over the salo players and the small companies.

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On 11/20/2020 at 11:16 PM, lordkhan4444 said:

so does anyone know how much dmg a normal cannon does to this new armoured shipyard?

~350dmg -> ~850 balls needed

But they are blocking other structures (even each other) in a funny retangle that is turned 40° clockwise... so it is not good for harbor integration...
You can build structures before placing the dock over it... but you cannot place anything on the dock (so no Puckles - which only be needed when the dock is destroyed anyway)
I guess you also cannot build anything on the ship in the dock because of it.

I would ask to remove the structure blocking, so we can use them in our harbor builds - structures are not protected anyway...
Would gladly remove my 10k structure protective docks and replace it with armored docks, but a ship parking space needs some other useable/buildable structures as well...

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I quit this game to hard for a solo just trying to learn the game spent days scraping enough gold to buy a Schooner then someone killed me and took it I understand it’s pvp but the grind to get the gold is just to much 

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On 11/21/2020 at 6:36 AM, Chucksteak said:

Devs, I can save you a lot of effort. 

Reduce company ship limits (1-3 per person). Make green anchored vessels immune to deal or receive dmg, or just cap it at .01% dmg if it has to have a value. Add a gold upkeep to ships like NPCs and it draws from the chest onboard. 

Its not a big deal, Sea of Thieves gives you a new ship every time yours sinks. There nothing wrong with me having to sleep on my boat and keep gold in it to keep it safe 100% when I'm parked.

Less lag, less effort, more friendly to solos and small groups.

Your welcome.

Parked you say? Yeah im not too sure, you seem suspicious. Im not sure if you are parked at all.

Where is your island? I'm asking so that i can park my anchored immune vessel there and then we can have "fun" in this "video game" when my immune vessel does things to you

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On 11/20/2020 at 2:36 PM, Chucksteak said:

Devs, I can save you a lot of effort. 

Reduce company ship limits (1-3 per person). Make green anchored vessels immune to deal or receive dmg, or just cap it at .01% dmg if it has to have a value. Add a gold upkeep to ships like NPCs and it draws from the chest onboard. 

Its not a big deal, Sea of Thieves gives you a new ship every time yours sinks. There nothing wrong with me having to sleep on my boat and keep gold in it to keep it safe 100% when I'm parked.

Less lag, less effort, more friendly to solos and small groups.

Your welcome.

Needs further elaboration or Eeeceee's point becomes the new meta for unsinkable launch points. Immune to damage should = vulnerable to stealing.

However, we'd be lucky if this game makes it to release in a playable state at this point. Development direction seems to be a slow, continuous downward spiral.

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22 hours ago, eeeceee said:

Parked you say? Yeah im not too sure, you seem suspicious. Im not sure if you are parked at all.

Where is your island? I'm asking so that i can park my anchored immune vessel there and then we can have "fun" in this "video game" when my immune vessel does things to you

WTF are you talking about? Read it again. Your boat becomes anchored, nothing was said about parking. In my statement, your immune vessel cannot deal or receive dmg, so you would do nothing to me. We would get along splendidly. While I'm offline, you can still attack my land base, but at least I can still play the game when I get back.

 

2 hours ago, Xantria said:

Needs further elaboration or Eeeceee's point becomes the new meta for unsinkable launch points. Immune to damage should = vulnerable to stealing.

However, we'd be lucky if this game makes it to release in a playable state at this point. Development direction seems to be a slow, continuous downward spiral.

WTF are you talking about? Boats are things you can steal, I said nothing about taking this away. In fact I specifically mentioned having to sleep on my boat and keep it stocked with gold in order to keep it safe. You cannot steal a boat with an owner on board. If the boat cannot take dmg due to green anchor after 15 mins, then you cannot get to my character to hurt or remove me from my boat. So you cannot steal the boat I am logged out on if I enclosed myself and have a green anchor.

I suppose, if you were so inclined, that you could park next to me and wait for me to log on and hope I will raise anchor and sail away with you right there. That would be highly unlikely though, and regardless it forces you to deal with me when I'm online, witch is what we are going for after all.

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8 hours ago, Xantria said:

Needs further elaboration or Eeeceee's point becomes the new meta for unsinkable launch points. Immune to damage should = vulnerable to stealing.

However, we'd be lucky if this game makes it to release in a playable state at this point. Development direction seems to be a slow, continuous downward spiral.

 

5 hours ago, Chucksteak said:

WTF are you talking about? Boats are things you can steal, I said nothing about taking this away. In fact I specifically mentioned having to sleep on my boat and keep it stocked with gold in order to keep it safe. You cannot steal a boat with an owner on board. If the boat cannot take dmg due to green anchor after 15 mins, then you cannot get to my character to hurt or remove me from my boat. So you cannot steal the boat I am logged out on if I enclosed myself and have a green anchor.

I suppose, if you were so inclined, that you could park next to me and wait for me to log on and hope I will raise anchor and sail away with you right there. That would be highly unlikely though, and regardless it forces you to deal with me when I'm online, witch is what we are going for after all.

 

  @Chucksteak unfortunately @Xantria is pointing out a valid flaw. If anchoring then sleeping on a ship renders it unable to be damaged or stolen then we arrive at the alternate account problem. I'll elaborate.

     I have 2 xboxes and 2 computers in my household. Many households have this many Atlas compatible devices or more. If I were part of a group of nefarious griefers we could use our main accounts per usual, then purchase alternate accounts and park our invulnerable boats (w alts) in various locations to form grief blockades or act as FOBs. From my house alone I could surround your boat w 3 alt-account boats and play on my main, theoretically.

 

Needs reworking, unless I'm missing something.

Also, in anticipation of a possible retort, YES people will waste that much money, time and effort to troll someone.

Sorry dood

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I really like and appreciate what the devs are doing. I would like to say that I play sp, and I would love to see more focus on that as well as pvp. I mean, sp players payed for the game too. But keep up the work,  and if you do, I will get you more players.

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WTF are you talking about? Boats are things you can steal, I said nothing about taking this away. In fact I specifically mentioned having to sleep on my boat and keep it stocked with gold in order to keep it safe. You cannot steal a boat with an owner on board. If the boat cannot take dmg due to green anchor after 15 mins, then you cannot get to my character to hurt or remove me from my boat. So you cannot steal the boat I am logged out on if I enclosed myself and have a green anchor.

WTF are you talking about? (Sorry couldn't resist)

If I park my car behind others in a parking lot, I block them in. They can't just push it away. Same story here. Only takes someone 15 minutes to park their ship somewhere to blockade you and become an unmovable, unsinkable object. The recourse is some revised mechanic of stealing said vessel. If it only works at your own island/claim territory that's fine, but people will use it offensively (known as "turtling").

Don't get me wrong, your suggestion is awesome.

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